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    Quote Originally Posted by aychamo View Post
    I took your advice on the colored bars Also, the "dark" bars look better now. I had meant to fix that before I released.. Now it looks pretty cool man.
    thanks, glad some of my suggestions are of help!

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    I agree with Bugbyte (maybe because he agreed with me) but I think Google Earth is so widely used, it will only get better with time! Bugbyte can't you help him integrate GE into AMP?

    thanks Guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightningMac View Post
    I agree with Bugbyte (maybe because he agreed with me) but I think Google Earth is so widely used, it will only get better with time! Bugbyte can't you help him integrate GE into AMP?

    thanks Guys!
    I've been playing around a bit with GE. It behaves like a good little program and it remembers where it was last positioned on the screen and the dimensions you gave it. So for it to be "integrated", the first time it runs you'll have to move it exactly where you want it and size it appropriately.

    Also, GE supports an AppleScript command "SetViewInfo" to tell it exaclty where you want it to navigate to using the "view info" structure:
    latitude (real) : lat
    longitude (real) : long
    distance (real) : distance
    tilt (real) : tilt
    azimuth (real) : azimuth

    The point of that, meaning, that perhaps if we have the source code to gpsd (its open source, right?), it may be possible to use that to send a direct AppleScript command to GE to have it set the position automatically, which would eliminate the need to have GPS2GE running. But then again the GPS2GE works fine, so it's not really a problem. I know Jirka can program circles around me, so maybe I can get him to help me with that.

    I like what Jirka was doing with using Google Maps in a WebView, but it's a shame that we can't cache the maps from that. That makes me lend toward GE, due to caching 2 gigs of images/info. Jirka's way would look a WHOLE lot better, but without permanent internet access, it just isn't practical right now.

    As I see it now, AMP could launch GE, and you could see all your stuff in GE, and I can have one of my little transparent windows on the bottom part of the screen with a button to return back to AMP, etc. And the first time you run GE you'd have to make the window the right size so that it doesn't get covered, etc. And it's nice that GE has that "sidebar" button to hide and show the side bar with all your "Saved Points" or whatever.

    I *possibly* could do something like GPSRouteX (or whatever it's name is) and keep track of a route in the background, and have AMP pop-up little boxes when a turn is getting near, etc. Or at least have it popup boxes showing your current GPS speed, location, etc. But we need to accomplish the first part first.

    Are there any "pay" solutions that are better than this? I hear about Route66, etc. Do they suck or are they ok?

    I emailed the guys at RouteBuddy, but they never replied. They have a lot of work to do before it's a solution too. At least all of their maps are downloadable though. To me, all they would need to do to be "in car capable" is have some sort of OSK for entering all the text. They are more than capable programmers, so it shouldn't be a problem. I guess it just doesn't make sense to me how people develop GPS apps, because the only point of a real-time tracking GPS software is to have it in the car with you as you are driving, and there's really only two ways to do that, with a laptop or with a touchscreen. I know touchscreen is the minority, but it's still the #2 option (and enabling this option with an OSK is extraordinarily simple)

    Well, it seems like we are getting somewhat close to a solution.
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    I purchased RouteBuddy and added it as a plugin in AMP. I think AMP should concentrate on just being a Front End application so it doesn't get bogged down with GPS programming and the like. Keep AMP simple and it will be the best front end.
    RouteBuddy doesn't have the features yet but it's looking promising as a viable option for GPS in the future.
    Keep up the good work!

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    !! Tell us about how RouteBuddy works out for you as an in-car solution!! How do you like it??
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    Quote Originally Posted by blaforce View Post
    I think AMP should concentrate on just being a Front End application so it doesn't get bogged down with GPS programming and the like. Keep AMP simple and it will be the best front end.
    Of course it is Aychamo's decision, but I strongly disagree. A true front-end must provide the user with a standardized and consistent user interface for all the functions. So the functionality either has to be built-in or the front end application must be kind of operating system, providing an environment and API for plug-ins that implement the functionality.

    If you just launch external applications using their original GUI, you do not have a front end, but only a launcher

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    Quote Originally Posted by aychamo View Post
    The point of that, meaning, that perhaps if we have the source code to gpsd (its open source, right?), it may be possible to use that to send a direct AppleScript command to GE to have it set the position automatically, which would eliminate the need to have GPS2GE running. But then again the GPS2GE works fine, so it's not really a problem. I know Jirka can program circles around me, so maybe I can get him to help me with that.
    I'd say short term, just set up a nav window in AMP that lets you see GE running underneath it. In that window, put some information you pull off of GPSD like speed and altitude, big enough to read when driving.

    Later on, look at getting GPS2GE out of the picture so that AMP is controlling GE. That way AMP users can configure it for what altitude they want to view from, how far down to tilt the camera, etc. etc. For example, at a stoplight GPS2GE zooms out to give you an over view. Frankly, I'd like it to zoom in closer, the slower I'm going, so street names and stuff get revealed.

    Isn't there a way to send Applescript commands to GE from Cocoa? I'm almost certain there is. In that case, it is pretty trivial to, for example, ask GPSd what the speed is, then send the Applescript commands to GE.

    You'd also have to output the kml file from Amp, which is a pain, but should be straightforward. Anyhow, that's a longer term solution.
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    I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbyte View Post
    Isn't there a way to send Applescript commands to GE from Cocoa? I'm almost certain there is.
    Last time I checked (beginning of summer), Google Earth was not scriptable. If this is still so, you can't send AppleScript commands to GE from any application or framework. Besides that, the GE seems to be written using some really obscure libraries and frameworks, so the common cocoa hacks and reverse engineering tricks do not work either.

    Using JavaScript with Google maps seems to be the best method to integrate Google's maps into a custom product. There are still issues though (like you can't directly rotate the map, you do not get the 3D view etc.).

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    It's got a couple of scripting commands. I opened the dictionary of version 4 and found these:
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocruzer View Post
    I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
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    I like the RouteBuddy but I am still waiting on the features. It still doesn't do routing. I like what I see so far. The map shows my location and I can bring up points of interest. I purchased it now to support the project hoping it will be a solution for the mac. I would guess it will be another 4 - 6 months before they get routing working (being a programmer myself). The forum on their website is very helpful and they seem to be taking note to customer comments. They put out the software early so they can get feedback as they develop the software and add features.

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