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  1. #71
    AMP Creator aychamo's Avatar
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    Hey guys

    Need some input:

    For Playlists, how should that work? Where should you click to get to them? It's getting crowded in the music screen. But it's gotta be there somewhere.

    AMP will import the playlists from iTunes. Should it just list the playlists? And if you select the playlist, it will start playing it, and allow you to go back to looking at pictures or whatever other **** you're doing (when you should be driving, lol)

    Tonight I had a little free time so I figured out how to do the playlists, it should be pretty simple. I added in a little "auto" playlist just now, like in iTunes, when you play one track, if you just let it sit there and it finishes the track and it goes to the next track. So if you have a CD in order, (by track number), AMP will sort it appropriately and play it in that order, without any input from you. If you want it to stop playing, just hit stop, or play any other song. It's really passive, and it works really well.

    While bug testing it, I put on an album (Sgt Pepper's!), and then I turned on the visualizations. It really pleased me because AMP finished the first song, continued displaying the visualization, then the little transparent window that pops up when you play a song popped up on top of the visualization, showed me what was coming next, then the window went away, as it should, and the visualization played on, uninterrupted.

    It's really pretty cool. I imagine that would look nice in a vehicular environment.

    Does anyone know of any really nice Quartz composer (.qtz) visualizations that modify themselves to match audio playing on the computer? Like iTunes' visualizations, how they move with music. I've found a couple, but they are pretty damned lame!

    (Oh, I don't think I ever mentioned this. If you have an album in iTunes, and you don't have anything set for "track number", AMP will just sort that album alphabetically. But if you have the "track number" key set in iTunes, it will sort the album according to the track numbers, so that it preserves the original order of the album.)
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    okay, after staring at the screen for a minute, the only place I can think for it to go is inbetween the back button and album button at the top, I know it's be a tight fit, but logically it makes sense, now if you cna get those aqua buttons I'm talking about and make them more towards the middle of the screen for the play controls, I think it would look fine...

    just my 2 cents...

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    another thought, have it go into the visual mode automatically after the song plays for 5 secs and then put the playlist button in its' place under the album button. Visual mode could be set in the prefs area, on type, speed or whatever other parameters you can think of.

    Also another idea, use the same buttons you have on the left side of the screen, for album, back page up and down for the player's controls on the bottom, but see about giving them an aqua "translucent" feel and change the colors of each of the buttons. i.e. green for play, black for stop... etc...

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    AMP is awesome !! Keep up the great work. Its nice to see an app that works like it should on a mac !!

    Like the quartz stuff too.

    rdag: I noticed in case you have issues you can re-import music to fix your particular crashing issue. I had similar errors and fixed by re-importing..dunno why at this stage. Also missing some album display but dunno why for now.


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    With the music player, my wish list :-)
    - one click to play a song
    - controls to skip to next song
    - selecting/sorting songs album, playlists, genre
    - shuffle either via album, playlists, genre

    Therefore the buttons could be
    BACK
    SHUFFLE (prob a preference ? rather than real estate use)
    SONGS/ALBUM/ARTIST/GENRE (sortable via preferences, alphabetic, date added, played etc)
    PLAYLIST
    SORT (each click changes as above from alfa,date,whatever for each of song, album, artist)
    SEARCH ?
    VISUAL (option via pref to auto turn on as above after preset time)

    PAGE DOWN/UP
    May I suggest following ? MOVE/implement on the other side with the scroll bar. Click on bar down
    you go one page down, hold and you gradually increase speed of scrolling in either direction...either scroll individually or pages ?

    Whereas the controls would be
    FF REW PLAY STOP/PAUSE NEXT PREV

    Movies would have similar options/controls

    thoughts/comments ?
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    rgds, raceer


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    http://web.mac.com/vogelbusch/iWeb/S...positions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by aychamo
    Hey guys
    Does anyone know of any really nice Quartz composer (.qtz) visualizations that modify themselves to match audio playing on the computer? Like iTunes' visualizations, how they move with music. I've found a couple, but they are pretty damned lame!
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    rgds, raceer


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    not sure if this is a bug, but in album view, I have some songs showing up as albums multiple times... so for one album ALL the songs show up as seperate albums but with the same artwork...

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    It may be, has anyone else experienced that? Is it just for one album, or for more than one? I had a similar problem, but it turned out that it was that iTunes was too clever for me.

    If there is very small variations in the names of different albums, iTunes will lump them together anyway. AMP isn't that smart.

    Like, iTunes would treat the following as the same album:
    Abbey road
    and
    Abbey Road

    Or, if there is trailing spaces before or after the album name, like if an album is named "Abbey Road " (with the space on the end), it will be treated differently. Also.. If the Artist tags have any types of variation (like extra space, or whatever), then it will break apart the albums beneath it depending on which album it is most closely associated with.

    Try this: Goto iTunes, and highlight all the songs of the 1 album that shows up like that, and hit Apple-I to bring up the info window, and then mass-apply an artist name and album name, so that they all for sure have the exact same tags in the songs, and then reimport.

    I had what appeared to be that problem too, but it turns out the problem was in my tags via iTunes.
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    Playlists!

    Ok guys, I've essentially got playlists put in, along with the forward and backwards buttons to jump through songs, and they autoplay throughout AMP (even in slideshows, visualizations, everything, it's working pretty smooth)

    I noticed this though, iTune gives me a whole lot of playlists. Including: "Library", Party Shuffle, Podcasts, Purchased, Recently Added, & Videos.

    I've already decided to exclude the "Library" play list, as it's just every single song (but I suppose I could leave it in too?) .. But some of the stuff, like Purchased, or Videos, I think could be left out. I don't know.. What do you guys think? They don't really get in the way, so it's not much harm to leave them in.

    The playlists are working nice though. You can just load AMP, goto the music screen, hit playlists, and then pick a playlist and it will play until it finishes. You can do whatever else you want while you have the playlist (except for play radio & movies obviously, as they take over). Pictures, slideshows, visualizations, all work, and they let you know what song is playing when a new song comes on.

    I redid a bit of the button layout to allow quick and easy access (and this way makes more sense) between all of the different music types (artist view, album art view, playlists, radio, visuals, etc). I just need to iron in the layout and make sure I'm happy with it, and fix a few things raceer suggested. The scroll bar on the right functions as a pageup/pagedown, and also a home/end button. So I figured it was redundant to have page up and page down on the screen twice.

    For anyone who *doesn't* have radioSHARK, when you try to do the radio unit, what happens? I think I'm going to lock out the radio unit if you don't have radioSHARK.app on your computer, just to keep things as bugfree as possible. But I suppose if it crashes on you once, you would learn to not open it again :-)
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    Does the browser work, or is it just me?
    My default browser isn't safari or slowfox, I use camino if thats any problem ?

    .n2k

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    Oh sorry, no. I haven't implemented it. I can make it just launch whatever. I have all the stuff for the built-in browser, with little short cuts, I just need to make it look better. I figure since it's not ready for car use (because I still dont have my monitor to test it) that I'll finish the main stuff, then add that later.
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