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    Am I mistaken or Oracle (Sun's) are not the only one who hold patent for the Java code? What if Google have an agreement with IBM to use some part of Java? Is that legal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SGAsgard View Post
    Am I mistaken or Oracle (Sun's) are not the only one who hold patent for the Java code? What if Google have an agreement with IBM to use some part of Java? Is that legal?
    I think they are the only one that holds patents to the core java tech (i could be wrong) although there are certainly others that own java related patents. This is a lawsuit over a few specific patents that oracle thinks google intentionally violated.

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    Interesting that Oracle targeted Google first.
    Who is next on the chopping block?

    Depends on the patents but Oracle could possibly wipe out DoCoMo Japan too.

    OpenSolaris is going down too.

    What is Oracle really after?

    @ side note:
    Interesting that Apple's webobjects has been off the map for a few years now and that xcode is really not java 1st but objectiveC. hmmmmmmm

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    What is Oracle really after?
    They're Oracle, and vigorous assertion of any and all intellectual property is their MO. They're not "really after" anything, this is just what they do.

    Regarding opensolaris, I'm sad but unsurprised... if the leaked email is true. It has the pangs of genuineness about it, as it makes absolute sense from the perspective of a company interested in monetising a product. No-one ever accused Sun of being clever with this stuff.

    Also, the lines about code release in that leaked email... wake me up when they're *actually* pushing code under the CDDL. Until then, as far as I'm concerned, it's posturing. When it comes down to it, handing out the source to what they plan to be one of their crown jewels just seems unlikely.

    Thankfully, recently the Illumos project was announced which may make up for it. Hopefully they create their own instance of jucr or similar; opensolaris was the first distribution of anything that obdgpslogger was available in, simply because jucr is so friendly to open source end users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chunkyks View Post
    They're Oracle, and vigorous assertion of any and all intellectual property is their MO. They're not "really after" anything, this is just what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chunkyks View Post
    They're Oracle, and vigorous assertion of any and all intellectual property is their MO. They're not "really after" anything, this is just what they do.
    Don't kid yourself...

    Oracle is primarily after money, and world dominance, just like any other big company. It is very common (especially in recessions) for big companies to go after even bigger mothership mammoth-size companies because when times are tough it is much easier for smaller companies to make attempts at leveling the playing field, and taking down the bigger guys who have all the power. Google would theoretically be much more vulnerable to going down in a recession, because money is tight for all companies right now. And of course, the lawyers at Oracle have been paid top dollar to find ways to get in a higher position of world dominance. Of course Google aint going to go down without a fight. They have top dawg lawyers too.

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    In this case one can only hope the court finds in favor of Google, and perhaps Oracle will have to pay up for the damages incurred by Google.

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    I dont think this will hold up. Im a developer for IBM and Im currently developing a java application. In order to legally use java we (IBM) must use our own JVM that we built. It differs from Suns JVM slightly (which is a pain in the butt sometimes trying to find why something works on one machine and not another).

    Considering the article states "It uses its own compiler and runtime tailored specifically for Android" I think that pretty gets them off the hook. since they use their own run time, much like IBM does so Sun has no say in it.

    I know we are FORCED to install the IBM jvm instead of the sun jvm specifically for the copy write infringement reason at IBM, so I think google is in the clear since they seem to do the same.
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