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    Quote Originally Posted by natedawgg View Post
    first off the version of itunes that it runs relies even more on you having to actually look at the machine ( it seems as if coverflow is gone, although i cannot confirm this). Theoretically you could write a new "front end" or music app but what is the point? As soon as you do you loose the ability to play music and view maps (no multitasking). you could wright some super app that tries to do both, but then you would have try and get it passed through the app store approval process on top of having to pay just to develop it in the first place. Im not trying to be super negative here, I just really don't think it is going to be a good fit in the car.
    Check out an app called Flicktunes. It does exactly what you're saying can't be done. It will play all of your music instead of using the iPod app on the iPhone. I've been using it for a while. You use finger swipe gestures to control the music. I bought it (it was $1.99) to be able to use two fingers to swipe and skip ahead 30 seconds - great for podcasts with commercials.

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    Putting this thing as your CarPC is underkill and definitely not worth the amount of work to get it "on par" with a Mini.

    However, getting the OS off of it, and using the SDK to build a decent touch friendly front end would be the ultimate goal of anything iPad/CarPC related.

    The dev kit for the iPhone must be easy enough to get 140k apps, so the iPad SDK should be just as easy. I cant speak for any developer here on MP3car.com/maccar, but I wonder if the OSX dev is a hurdle this can make easier to surmount by going iPad and not OSX operating system.

    Again, please dont imagine this thing BEING your CarPC as to why I started this topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meagain View Post
    With my iPhone in the car, I can play Pandora & music from my iPod with Navigon running. Same as will be with the iPad. No need to write any special app to do this, just jailbreak like everyone does which takes these devices into the stratosphere.
    I agree. I have an iphone 3g that i run jailbroken and i have to agree it is the only way run an iphone due to the fact that it makes the device infinitely more capable. I can also see the draw of having to only buy one device for $500 vs. the mini for $600 and then another $200 or so for a screen. but there are some major draw backs to using this in your car especially when jailbreaking is necessary to enable the features that you need.

    Here is the problem with jailbreaking. It is unreliable. The problem lies in the fact that apple is fighting to keep you from jailbreaking your device. Even on the new iphone 3gs you still have to do a tethered boot to circumvent the default iphone securities and enable the jailbreak. This means that if the device ever crashes or needs to reboot, you are stuck until you can plug it into a computer and rerun the boot process ( this may not actually be the case anymore, but the last time that i checked it was, So if you know better please let me know). Then you have to wait in fear everytime apple releases an update to the OS to see if it will be hackable or not. Apple is getting much better and patching holes and fighting against the dev-team to prevent their devices from being hacked. While you can guarantee that people will relentlessly try to find exploits, they are getting increasingly hard to find. With the iPad there may be a hack for it a day after it is released, or a month or two (if ever) later, you just don't know. My point is that I am get tired of trying to fight apple for control of a device i paid money for.

    Secondly, while the act of jailbreaking is harmless, there are a lot of apps in the jailbreak world that seriously compromise the stability of the device. I can't tell you how many times i have downloaded something from cydia only for it to through my device into an endless loop of crashing into "safe mode". While this isn't a huge deal most of the time, i can say for sure that I have noticed a decrease in speed in my iphone.

    Who knows maybe apple will release some amazing new features (fingers crossed for multi-tasking) in the new iPhone OS 4.0. If they do, then the tablet may very well become a viable option for some. IMHO i just don't think the iPad is worth the fight against steve jobs and then your car, to get this all to work. But to each is own and if you really think that you can create a good in-car user experience with this thing, then by all means go for it, document it and share with the rest of us.
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    It depends what jailbreak 'apps' you put on. I'm running mine very lean. No superfluous stuff like notifier or where the little weather icon displays live temps, etc. Just basics.
    I'm not seeing any battery draw or any lag. I also feel it's all improved much vs. a year ago. I've never had a crash.

    I only have Backgrounder, tethering, SBSettings (godsend), maybe 1-2 more tidbits. Then just stuff to make it 'pretty' like 5-icon dock, etc.

    Things are SO much better and at least with what I'm running - flawless.

    Not sure what you mean about this tethered boot thing. There is no boot process anymore, just a nice clean app like Pwnage and it takes perhaps 1 minute.

    But I think the iPad for many will be enough of a carputer for the most part. It will for me anyway. And it'll fit perfectly resting on my slide out ashtray against the center of my dash. Perfect. I'm excited.

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    It solves one very big problem - it provides direct touchscreen control over the iPhone OS. I've been using TVOut Landscape and it is pretty good, provides a little red dot on the screen for where you just clicked, but you're still working blind.

    This package gives you a large enough touchscreen for the car and direct touchscreen control PLUS the computer to drive it.

    So that's all good. The lack of multitasking is problematic but not impossible to overcome. The question is whether or not it is actually worth it to poke around and try out.

    I'm a little torn. I will probably buy one but I also recognize that it is sort of...beta hardware. There's some rough edges to the hardware that seem uncharacteristic for Apple but again, it is a 1.0 product. I guess I could wait, but then again, that means I'm not on leading edge.
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    I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
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    "Backgrounder" in Cydia = Multitasking

    Bug, did you notice how the icons rotate sideways when the thing is turned unlike iPhone?
    I want to know more about the GPS in it. I'm going to be standing in line.

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    Right, I background my iPhone 3G and it works pretty well. It gets low on memory and halts the program sometimes but I don't think that's an issue with the iPad.

    I'm not certain about whether it is truly multitasking, though. I notice when I switch from xGPS to iPod to change the station that the xGPS map stops updating until you switch back. That may just be video, though. GPS Tracker keeps sending data when in the background.
    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocruzer View Post
    I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbyte View Post
    It solves one very big problem - it provides direct touchscreen control over the iPhone OS. I've been using TVOut Landscape and it is pretty good, provides a little red dot on the screen for where you just clicked, but you're still working blind.

    This package gives you a large enough touchscreen for the car and direct touchscreen control PLUS the computer to drive it.

    So that's all good. The lack of multitasking is problematic but not impossible to overcome. The question is whether or not it is actually worth it to poke around and try out.

    I'm a little torn. I will probably buy one but I also recognize that it is sort of...beta hardware. There's some rough edges to the hardware that seem uncharacteristic for Apple but again, it is a 1.0 product. I guess I could wait, but then again, that means I'm not on leading edge.
    Hey man!

    It sure seems like if we had a clever mount for the iPad it could solve a lot of Mac carputer problems. It has 3G, audio, video, 140,000 apps, everything except GPS. To update media you just unplug it from the car and sync it to iTunes.

    I wonder if iPhone-compatible (apple dock connector) head units will automatically be compatible with this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meltz014 View Post
    Honestly, the only thing i can see this being useful for is in-car entertainment. At least, that's all i feel the OS is good for. If you have a big enough dash, it would be pretty sweet to have one of these mounted it in.

    I was really disappointed when i saw it doesn't run a real version of OSX. It's seriously just a large iPod touch
    It's amazing people out there still say stupid stuff like this. As with the iphone, the ipad is more app dependent than any hardware to date. If you have watched any of the keynotes and video on this, and the people who re developing actual applications for this are saying it is amazing. This will make the perfect car PC for someone who figures out how to integrate it into a car.

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    It's the iJitterbug, an over sized iPod Touch for people who need reading glasses. I was expecting much more than what it is. But, even Jobs said that Apple couldn't make a tablet for under $500 that wasn't a piece of crap.

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