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    According to Apple tech specs for the iPad:

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    • Assisted GPS (Wi-Fi + 3G model)
    • Cellular (Wi-Fi + 3G model)
    So we have assisted GPS on the iPad with 3g, but not the $499.00 one. So I take that on the more expensive iPad we will have something similar to the 3Gs. Now how good is this? Is it like a real GPS? 1Hz or 5Hz refresh rate?

    I have the lowly iPhone 3G, and the GPS sucks, it can be like 300ft wrong or more. Useless. I wonder how precise is the Assisted-GPS. Haven't find any good reviews yet. Does it know when you cross the street, like some do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RipplingHurst View Post
    According to Apple tech specs for the iPad:



    So we have assisted GPS on the iPad with 3g, but not the $499.00 one. So I take that on the more expensive iPad we will have something similar to the 3Gs. Now how good is this? Is it like a real GPS? 1Hz or 5Hz refresh rate?

    I have the lowly iPhone 3G, and the GPS sucks, it can be like 300ft wrong or more. Useless. I wonder how precise is the Assisted-GPS. Haven't find any good reviews yet. Does it know when you cross the street, like some do?
    Assisted GPS is accurate to like a 0.1 of a mile, although its usually more like 1000-ft.

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    I've only owned one apple product in my life (iphone) and I am reasonably sure I would never buy an apple product again. Apple should be in the Websters dictionary for the definition of proprietary. In my humble opinion, these apple touch devices are for inferior computer users, since lets be honest, you cannot even look at the file system on them without hacking them.
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    Judging Apple on 1 product is unfair considering OS X is based on BSD which the last time I heard is not proprietary, Safari comes from the linux world which source was converted into webkit which is the basis for Google's Chrome.

    Back to the iphone OS. I could be wrong but the only open "phone" OSes are Android and now Symbian. But back to the iphone OS how many "closed" OSes offer a SDK at the time of system releases? android? nope!

    But if you are just referring to the "touch" based OS. Yes, I can understand some of your argument. However, I wonder if I fall into your category of "inferior computer users" because I do like my iphone. But what happens when I mention that I've been on the net since the days of pine, wrote pascal programs in jr. high, and today like to fiddle with mysql and ruby after deciding that I don't enjoy coding in perl or php as much as I used to. Or should I bring up that I chose Apple over wintel because I don't like spending my time updating trojan, phishing, virus definitions or having to call/web M$ for a confirmation code for every time I install their OS. But that might be going off topic. More on topic would be the question, "Is Microsoft a non-proprietory company".

    I like my iphone because it does basically what I want it to do and even with all the great phones in Japan it was the only phone at the time of purchase that could do what it does. The only other contender is the Android which I have to say I haven't found one on display to try out nor have I seen one in the wild.

    Maybe you should say "non-hackers" instead of "inferior computer users" that way you won't alienate many of us who actually remember pets, adobe when it was mostly a font company and Word being only an Apple product.

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    Don't get me wrong here, Apple has a great business model; dumb the software down, pretty the hardware up and viola! An army of app store + iTune clicking drones that wouldn't know real hardware or software if it slapped them in the face. I'm not saying all users are inferior computer users, I still use my iPhone, what I am saying is the apple devices are carefully designed to extract as much money from users pockets as possible. The highest profit margins come obviously from the least experienced. They close the hardware design so you have to buy overpriced adapters to do anything, they close the software so its controlled to the point of having a zomie nation dependent on it, and they always, ALWAYS introduce something just a bit more trendy then the last to keep all the zombies on the bandwagon.

    To illustrate my point using your reference, ask 90% of mac users what a BSD kernel is and they will look at you cross eyed. Tell them they are running the same intel hardware as your PC and they claim blasphemy.

    What makes this entire conversation ironic is I actually run FreeBSD, the operating system on which mac was built, although I find FreeBSD much better suited to my needs, and the price much better. (free)
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    Yes, I agree Apple is trying to turn "a real nice" profit. And I do agree that most users have no clue nor do sales people about Apple being actually on the intel platform. However, mac users do not really care if there is a BSD kernel and probably most of them would say that a kernel is something left over in the bottom of the bowl.

    But that is the point of Apple. Make a product that works out of the box with the least amount of fuss. I'm sure most users buy Apple products because of that.

    However, if you look at the 90% share holder MicroSoft and their users you start to realize that many of them don't know much about their computers either else if they did we'd have less spam, trojans, and bots circling the planet.

    What I don't understand why can such a small market holder (less than 10%) demand such a large mind share.

    Regarding adapters, proprietary adapters were the norm prior to the EU complaining about having to buy a new adapter with every new phone they bought. I too have my share of adapters that are no longer useful.

    What I'm trying to get at is that Apple is not the only company that follow this type of practice. I just don't get why Apple is the company that people choose to target when their have been several others prior who started this whole situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by SapporoGuy View Post
    But that is the point of Apple. Make a product that works out of the box with the least amount of fuss. I'm sure most users buy Apple products because of that.
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    A lot of power users use Apple products. In my line of business, everyone totes around a MacBook Pro. 95% of all system administrators I know use macs. Even people who manage NT, Linux,Solaris enterprise networks use macs. When you are working 60 hours a week, at the end of the day, you want something that works. I manage NT, Sun Solaris, Linux, and old SGI irix servers. I've been using Unix for over 15 years. I consider myself a power user.

    I also consider the iPhone, in the right hands, a powerful tool. I've been using Windows Mobile since it was Pocket PC as far way back as 1996. When the App Store was released, it eclipsed everything MS did in the mobile space.

    With the iPhone, I have a real Cisco VPN solution without paying $400 a license. Cisco no longer makes Pocket PC VPN clients. With the iPhone, I have a plethora of real SSH/SFTP clients to choose from. There are maybe 2-3 on WinMo and they all suck. Same goes for VNC. The only thing MS has going for it is Terminal Client on their smartphone but that is useless to me w/out a VPN tunnel. With the iPhone, I have a host of good SQL and mySQL clients. Again, all accessible from the AppStore. The point? Apple makes products with enough momentum that developers makes power solutions for end users.
    The iPhone is not about Apple. The appeal is from 3rd party support.

    The only competitor to the iPhone/iPad are the Android products. I'm keeping my eyes on that space.

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    I guess it all preference. I have just always liked Microsoft. i agree with blk02si, apple does seem to dumb down their stuff. I remember when I tried to use a mac for the first time and it was very hard, its when I finally just let go of trying to figure it out, that I was able to find everything. I basically had to blank out my mind. Same thing with the iPhone. I tried to use it to test my wi-fi hotspot network since iPhone users where complaining about not being able to get on. I couldn't figure it out until I just took a breath and blanked out my mind. I am thinking of adding a disclaimer that says if you have an apple product on my network you get no help from me if something goes wrong, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZX1Cruizer View Post
    I am thinking of adding a disclaimer that says if you have an apple product on my network you get no help from me if something goes wrong, lol.
    I got 60 mac workstations and zero viruses in the past 10 years. Building a mac from scratch w/ OS and software takes 15 minutes from a bootable cloned firewire Ipod. Only time something happens if the hardware is too old (4 years of running 2/47).

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    Hand's on the iPad:
    Apple's iPad is a touch of genius:


    It strikes you when you first touch an iPad. The form just feels good, not too lightweight or heavy, nor too thin or thick. It's sensual. It's tactile. And it's a good way to spot a first-timer, too, as I observed with a few test subjects. The dead giveaway for an iPad n00b is pausing a few breaths before hitting the "on" switch, and just let the thing rest there against skin.
    Flick the switch and the novelty hits. Just as the iPhone, Palm Pr and Android phones scratched an itch we didn't know we had, somewhere between cellphone and notebook, the iPad hits a completely new pleasure spot. The display is large enough to make the experience of apps and games on smaller screens stale. Typography is crisp, images gem-like, and the speed brisk thanks to Apple's A4 chip and solid state storage. As I browse early release iPad apps, web pages, and flip through the iBook store and books, the thought hits that this is a greater leap into a new user experience than the sum of its parts suggests.
    (...)
    When you get a chance, compare it to the tiny screen of an iPhone or Droid, or the less responsive touchscreens of an all-in-one desktop PC such as HP's TouchSmart: it's a completely different experience.
    "A stereo 3D video of a static object that you can rotate in real time," Theo says over the phone. "Honestly, I'm not sure where you go from there. Smellovision? Not a whole lot more you can do."
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    presentation for iPad (those spinning samples of elements you twirl with your fingertip) makes use of openGL textures, compressing visual data in a way that can be compressed in the graphics chip, so the data can be read without hogging CPU resources. By making use of hardware native to iPad, you can can "play" a spin forwards and backwards with no hiccups or performance lags -- even spin 3, 4, 5, 10 views of an element at a time. This ain't Flash video over WiFi, folks. You'll feel sad going back to chokey http embeds.

    (...)

    Tapping and swirling my way through iBooks (the store includes free, public domain titles in addition to the $9.99-$12.99 bestsellers), and iPad native apps provided at launch such as the spectacular, game-changing Marvel Comics app (crisp, lucid art, the ability to navigate frame-by-frame, rendering spoilers down the page obsolete), the Epicurious recipe browser, and the news browsing app by Reuters (free app in which video is, again, a seamless delight), the idea hits. This is what we wanted e-books to be all along. Rich, nimble, and dense with image and sound and navigability, right there inside the flow of the story. And this is what we wanted the web to feel like all along. We just want it to work, and we don't want to be aware of the delivery method while we're enjoying what's delivered.


    Theo's been thinking about all of this, too. "The Kindle is a great device, and I own several," Theo says. "But the concept of an e-book has always been that it's like PDF. Imagine if the web standard was PDF instead of html, if everyone's web pages consisted of what you can do in PDF? That would be a really boring world. I hate to see ebooks as being pigeonholed as these static, PDFlike things, in which the biggest 'a-ha' you can have is an exciting pageturning animation, or search. What could an ebook be? Let's draw a line in the sand out in the future and say, this is the greatest aspiration, if the limitations of code and hardware were no object."

    Read the whole thing.





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