Thread: Front Stage Suggestions

One of the things I've found is that those who complain about the Focals being bright are those people who listen to them in only one instance and most of the time they're on-axis.

The Focals need to be off axis. Most people apply conventional thought processes that work for other brands to the Focals only to find that they don't sound right.

The Focals need to be completely off axis to reduce some of the harshness, from there, it's all about tuning, as with any system.

also, I'm not sure where the comment about kicks came from?

I'm running a set of 5" Be subs in my kicks...

I think it is Somethuing Durwood Said About Free Air and Small Drivers


If anyone has Time this manual is a Good Read

http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/CAR/Ow...rev3_20_07.pdf

Red Would it be Wise To Do a Small 5 inch focal Sub Up Front?

it completely depends on your set-up as a whole.

We're running the Be tweeters, 3" mids, and 5" subs....if we had picked a component set this probably wouldn't have worked as well.

Ah Very Cool

My System Is going to be as follows....

Componet Setup in Front...

Rear Entertainment for kiddos
( headphones and monitors )

And the tc sub In a Sealed Enclosure....
in the back

if that helps

Thing is, it's not going to help me if I don't know your car, your amps, power, how much air space you have to work with, how you're going to build that enclosure, what frequencies they will be playing, etc.

It's truely a project where you have to take everything into account, at this level it's not just pulling a box of the shelf and running with it. If you're wanting to run subs in the front, you need to look at the frequencies your components are going to play and determine if the subs will fit in there. Also need to consider if you have the hardware to properly tune such a set-up.

Ok lets see.....

05 Pontiac grand Am

Running a 3/4th mdf sealed Sub Enclosure...

power is 4 Kinetics Batteries In Trunk

200 amp alternator

Was thinking about putting those 5 inch subs in kick panals like this...




Mainly listen to Rock.. Contempary.. Alternative.. Dance With some Occasional Rap

Hope that helps...

Now I am going to Owe you a steak dinner

The only things I want to point out is your gonna need a very powerfull frontstage to keep up whit 2000w of bass, especially whit a monster like this.

Depending on what you want to achieve, the xover frequancy you want on the sub and your volume target, you'll need more/less bass or mid-bass from the components wooffers... This could have a big impact on your choice.

Oups, your were too fast Red.. hehe


Area, what about amps?

Was Going to use this one for the front

SPECIFICATIONS:

* 100 x 4 watts @ 4 ohms
* 160 x 4 watts @ 2 ohms
* 320 x 2 watts @ 4 ohms bridged
* Damping Factor > 200 @ 4 Ohms
* 0.2v - 6v adjustable input sensitivity
* 10 Hz - 40,000 Hz Frequency Response
* Channel Separations: 75 dB
* > 90 dB S/N Ratio
* 4-Way Protection Circuit (Thermal, Overload, Speaker Short, and Over Current)
* Selectable HP / LP / FULL crossover
* CH 1 & 2 Variable HP crossover 50 - 5000 Hz @ 12 dB
* CH 1 & 2 Variable LP crossover 30 - 250 Hz @ 12 dB
* CH 3 & 4 Variable HP crossover 50 - 1000 Hz @ 12 dB
* CH 3 & 4 Variable LP crossover 50 - 5000 Hz @ 12 dB
* 10 Hz - 100 Hz variable subsonic filter (CH 1&2 and CH 3&4)
* Subsonic filter allows for band-passed crossover configuration
* 0 - 18 dB adjustable bass boost
* 35 - 120 Hz Variable Bass Boost Center Frequency
* Wired Remote Control unit included
* 3x 30 Amp Internal Fuses
* 16.5" L x 9.9" W x 2" H


And this one for the sub

# 3000 x 1 watts @ 1 ohm
# 1600 x 1 watts @ 2 ohms
# 800 x 1 watts @ 4 ohms
# 0.2v - 6v adjustable input sensitivity
# 10 Hz - 350 Hz Frequency Response
# >90 dB S/N Ratio
# 4-Way Protection Circuit (Thermal, Overload, Speaker Short, and Over Current)
# Linkable to another SAZ-3000D for up to 6000 watts @ 2 ohms
# 35 Hz - 300 Hz adjustable 24dB Low-Pass Crossover
# 10 Hz - 60 Hz adjustable 24dB Subsonic Filter
# 0 - 180 degree adjustable phase shift
# 0 - 18 dB adjustable bass boost with 45 Hz center frequency
# Wired Remote Control unit included
# 300-amp external fuse required (not included)
# 23.4" L x 9.9" W x 2" H


Prob Will Cross the Sub over At About 80 hz - 85 hz