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    Tuning with speakers wires is complete BS. If you've spent lots of money on fancy cables you bought into some home audio snake oil. Sorry to bring the reality home. Buy speaker wire that is flexible and can work in the space and environment you are using it in. I prefer cheap stuff, and the only reason I might spend a tad more is to get a slightly better constructed wire that's easier to work with.

    Read this:

    http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...1&postcount=31

    here's another good read.

    http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...ad.php?t=27312

    If you can hear frequencies above 20Khz, please call Ripley's believe it or not.

    Twisted pair CAT5 is connected to a balanced system in hubs, routers, cards, etc. It's designed for the application it's used in. I wouldn;t use it for speaker wire (hard to work with) or RCA's (since it doesn't have the proper shielding necessary).

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    Quote Originally Posted by durwood View Post
    If you can hear frequencies above 20Khz, please call Ripley's believe it or not.
    This is not a part of the argument about which speaker wires to use, but...

    Hearing it & being effected by it are two different things. Case in point, the "subsonic" frequencies put out by some of the higher-end sub/amp setups I've seen. You can't hear em, but damn if you stand anywhere near em when they're cranked up & poundin out those subsonic freqs, you can certainly feel em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLandYacht View Post
    This is not a part of the argument about which speaker wires to use, but...

    Hearing it & being effected by it are two different things. Case in point, the "subsonic" frequencies put out by some of the higher-end sub/amp setups I've seen. You can't hear em, but damn if you stand anywhere near em when they're cranked up & poundin out those subsonic freqs, you can certainly feel em.
    As stated and links pointing to earlier, standard audio cable can pass the entire audio spectrum without a problem. A wire's capacitance and the load connected determines the low pass filter. As frequencies get lower, you approach DC, so as long as the wire can carry the current from the amp delivered to the load, subsonic frequencies will not be affected.

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    Darque maybe said it best; something like "depends on the ear..."

    I couldn't really afford the monster cable and other xxx$$ per foot wire, so I just used the bast and largest gage of stranded wire I could get surplus.

    For me, I prefer speaker wire about 12-14 gage. One real important factor for me is proper termination; using crimp-on spade or ring terminals, or banana type binding posts.

    Some speakers I've had were really nice, but they chaeped out on the input terminals!
    No biggie, Partsexpress.com, my favorite supplier, has all sorts of quality speaker connectors and such.

    Happy carpc'ing!


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    I was away from the forums for a couple days and I come back here to see a can opened up... nice thread everyone!

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    the solid wire WILL fatigue and break over time from the vibration from the road, thats why its not realy used in cars

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopperdr View Post
    the solid wire WILL fatigue and break over time from the vibration from the road, thats why its not realy used in cars
    I think that's too broad and sweeping of a statement. It would have validity for looms running to an engine (rocking on it's mounts), and doors (flexing as they open and close), but the rest comes from other reasons (IMO).

    And my opinion is based on writing specs for wiring setups where I work. Stranded wire allows you flexibility to manually route the wires in an efficient manner. Trying to make a cable bundle that has to follow contours from solid core wire is very difficult. With stranded you can just lay it in and zip-tie it off.

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    it dose ofer you more flexibility in routing, but stranded wire is used for high vibration areas ( auto Body electric, My career Aviation avionics instalation, ect.) because all moving things vibrate while in motion. you may not be able to feel it but its there

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    The other thing to consider is that there are probably 100 different brands of stranded wire designed specifically to work inside of a car. I don't think I can name a company that makes solid stranded wire designed for a car. The solid stuff I have seen is either house wiring (which somehow only manages to find its way into a car being done by an "electrician" or "electrical engineer" and the other is high end home audio stuff.

    So outside of the issue of finding solid strand wire for a car, whatever wire you would find isn't designed for running inside the inside of a car, it's designed to be run inside of a wall behind drywall or on someone's living room floor, over carpet.

    Juan

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbridges View Post

    And my opinion is based on writing specs for wiring setups where I work. Stranded wire allows you flexibility to manually route the wires in an efficient manner. Trying to make a cable bundle that has to follow contours from solid core wire is very difficult. With stranded you can just lay it in and zip-tie it off.
    yeah what you said, ive only been involved in pro audio for 12 years now, but general rule of thumb for us has always been good quality stranded wire for speakers, bigger the speaker bigger the wire.
    solid wire might get used for running power from a battery, but again a stranded is easier to work with as its more flexible, you get a cleaner, safer install.

    cat5, really should only be used for phone and data. a generic ok quality speaker wire isnt that expensive.

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