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    Question Trying to install chrysler can-bus model REQ radio in 1997 Wrangler? Please help! TIA

    I bought a Chrylser 6 disc dvd OEM radio model REQ w/out sirius (part #05064111AK, supplier 26777L) from a local breaker through ebay (auction #190203000038). I was told that it came out of a 2008 Jeep Liberty with out the rear video or Uconnect installed, so I got the main connector with about 1 foot of wire. I bought this to put into my 1997 Jeep Wrangler, but I knew nothing of this can-bus garbage. I bought the Scosche connector for my Wrangler, and the colors didn't match up, did some research and I am stumped. I called Scosche and they sell a connector to go from a can-bus car to a non-can-bus radio, but they said that I couldn't used it backwards in my Jeep... which is basically what I need. Looks like when you hit the on button on the radio, it sends a signal to the cars ecu on the can-bus, then the ecu sends a signal back and tells the radio to turn on. There has to be something to make this work. Scosche made a connector setup for the other way, I'm sure that something could be done for this... I just don't have the resources that companies like Scosche has. Any ideas?
    Thanks In advace for the help.
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    You could always buy a 08 Liberty, other then that it wont work for the application.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boomintrac View Post
    You could always buy a 08 Liberty
    Those are almost as fugly as Vibes!

    And actually it comes standard in other models also.

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    Hey mate your not goin to belive it but i am trying to do exactly what you are trying to do! Have a 6 stacker dvd from a JK wrangler including the amp and sub, and trying to install it all in my 98 TJ, just in a different country to you ahah. I have got as far as you have with the stupid CANbus system there has to be away to bypass it so it turns on via a ignition wire. or maybe a fake canbus? Ive posted on a few forums i will let you no what i found out and vice versa would be great cheers.

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    If we had the resources of Scosche, it would be a simple matter of reverse engineering the can-bus. They made an adapter to go from a can-bus car to a non can-bus radio. But that is the simple part, when the device gets the proper data (request to turn on the radio) is activates a 12 volt power for your non can-bus radio.

    I have looked around the past few days and it appears that the radio talkes to potentially everything in the car: power mirrors, power door locks, power windows, heated seats, transmission, engine, gps, tire pressure monitors, etc. The only possible information that I could ever see the radio needing from the car, is speed for speed controlled volume, or transmision in park/parking brake on for front video. This is obviously just an attempt by Chrylser to make it unreasonable diffucult to add an aftermarket radio so that you will upgrade through them.

    I have only been going at this for a couple of days and I am ready to pack it in. The problem is still pretty new.. so maybe there will be a solution someday. The problem is that a lot more people want to put new after market radios in new cars, than want to put new oem radios in old cars. Maybe that will change since so many of the new oem radios are so nice. When I was a kid almost ALL oem radios were crap, now as we have found, many are pack full of features.

    If I find anything I will let you know... but I think that I am ready to unload this radio already.

    Don't know if you had see these, maybe you will see something I didn't:
    http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_CAN.html
    http://www.aa1car.com/library/can_systems.htm

    Durn, this guy has been trying to do it since 2003!!! and no responses : mbworld.org , gonna try and contact him on the off chance he ever figured it out, he's had more time

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDNZL View Post
    Those are almost as fugly as Vibes!
    Opinions vary as I think the wrangler looks like a 16yr old girls auto, but it obvisly works for you.

    Also with the use of can bus (or other data networks for that matter) allows the manufacture to save money and eliminate alot of unneeded wiring and use the network to communicate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a dumbass View Post
    Opinions vary as I think the wrangler looks like a 16yr old girls auto,
    Yes Wranglers are popular with chicks of all ages. That is a good thing, but I wouldn't expect someone as immature as you to understand why. The only females I see going near a vibe have humongous asses, several chins and smell like cheese What is your problem anyway? Parents leave the house and forget to set Net Nanny? Why do losers like you that have nothing to contribute always feel the need to crap on legitimate threads?

    Chad_TJ = I don't think that there is a realistic option for us at this point. I do think that someone with the resources of say.. Scosche, could make something that would work. But they obviously don't see that many people doing it or else they would have a product. There are just a lot more people putting new after market radios in new cars, than people putting new OEM radios in old cars.

    Also, with some canbus radios there is theft deterent. VW radios, I am told, look for the vehicles VIN every time you turn it on. I am not sure exactly why, but new Ford radios have to be reprogrammed at the dealership when moved from one new FORD to another. The dealership can charge between $50 -$200 for this, depending on wether they go by the book, or do it as a customer satisfaction kind of a thing. Either of those might be hard to incorporate into some kind of a solution for people in our position.

    I wish that I had known it then... but I guess that you shouldn't buy an OEM radio for newer vehicles unless you have the same vehicle that it came out from.

    What do I say about this little learning experience?

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