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    Yeah, I'm rude.
    I'm in your face and brutally honest.
    I don't hold back my opinions, and it upsets people whose skin isn't particularly thick.
    I'm generally perceived as rude and "not nice".
    I can live with that.

    I understand how people would think that this is a forum to discuss car audio. It is certainly related to our hobby.

    But here's a logical, comparative example:
    You log onto a forum set up to exchange recipes and you go in asking about comparisons between KitchenAid or Cuisinart brand products. It simply isn't appropriate.
    Now, there may very well be participants on that forum that have experience with both and are likely to give information.

    Understand that the majority of us here don't have the comparison information you're looking for, as I stated.
    There are other locations on the vast internet that are likely to have the comparison information you seek. And I said just that in the very first response.
    But you persisted.
    "But I want to compare brand A vs brand B."
    "But this is a car audio section, right?"

    You weren't satisfied with an honest, realistic (albeit smart-alecky) answer.
    So rather than do some digging for your research, you push a bit and you push until you get an in-your-face response.

    We aren't members of this forum to do your research for you. I honestly can't understand why people (not only yourself) persist in trying to get information out of people when there are multiple other sources where the information can be obtained.

    I hate to break it to you, but this hobby is not for people who need information handed to them on a silver platter. In order to pull off a successful installation and keep it maintained, you're going to need to think on your feet, do some research and figure some things out on your own.
    That includes doing research.

    I applaud SuperJ for being far nicer than myself. That same site was one that was listed when I plugged those keywords into Google. I expect you'll likely find the comparisons you seek on that site, as well as others that focus specifically on car audio.

    I, for one, am not going to spoon-feed you, or anyone else. I'll help you with problems. I'll point you in the right direction for your answers. I'll help you troubleshoot when you're at wits end. I'll try to get you to figure out what is going on.
    I will not, however, simply give you answers.

    Sometimes my brand of "help" is making people realize that the roundish appendage atop their shoulders is more than just a hat rack.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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    man you guys are climbing up the wrong tree, take it from someone who's taken a couple hits from darquepervert, or you might just end up with a name you won't like, then you'll want to have "low bitrate " back

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarquePervert View Post
    Yeah, I'm rude.
    I'm in your face and brutally honest.
    I don't hold back my opinions, and it upsets people whose skin isn't particularly thick.
    I'm generally perceived as rude and "not nice".
    I can live with that.

    I understand how people would think that this is a forum to discuss car audio. It is certainly related to our hobby.

    But here's a logical, comparative example:
    You log onto a forum set up to exchange recipes and you go in asking about comparisons between KitchenAid or Cuisinart brand products. It simply isn't appropriate.
    Now, there may very well be participants on that forum that have experience with both and are likely to give information.

    Understand that the majority of us here don't have the comparison information you're looking for, as I stated.
    There are other locations on the vast internet that are likely to have the comparison information you seek. And I said just that in the very first response.
    But you persisted.
    "But I want to compare brand A vs brand B."
    "But this is a car audio section, right?"

    You weren't satisfied with an honest, realistic (albeit smart-alecky) answer.
    So rather than do some digging for your research, you push a bit and you push until you get an in-your-face response.

    We aren't members of this forum to do your research for you. I honestly can't understand why people (not only yourself) persist in trying to get information out of people when there are multiple other sources where the information can be obtained.

    I hate to break it to you, but this hobby is not for people who need information handed to them on a silver platter. In order to pull off a successful installation and keep it maintained, you're going to need to think on your feet, do some research and figure some things out on your own.
    That includes doing research.

    I applaud SuperJ for being far nicer than myself. That same site was one that was listed when I plugged those keywords into Google. I expect you'll likely find the comparisons you seek on that site, as well as others that focus specifically on car audio.

    I, for one, am not going to spoon-feed you, or anyone else. I'll help you with problems. I'll point you in the right direction for your answers. I'll help you troubleshoot when you're at wits end. I'll try to get you to figure out what is going on.
    I will not, however, simply give you answers.

    Sometimes my brand of "help" is making people realize that the roundish appendage atop their shoulders is more than just a hat rack.
    m8 I can reply to each sentence , I don't like such way of conversation which drags that post far away.

    I'm the one who is sorry to say , I didn't ask for your life lessons.
    I didn't ask you to do something for me. as you felt.

    All I can say , that if I MUST reply I WOULD say a useful thing or I WOULD not reply at all

    Playing the instructor game is something I don't like.

    That's me.

    The only lesson you could teach me , is not to ask for you help or even think about.

    Thanks m8.

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    Go to Car Toys or some other car audio store and listen to all the different brands and models yourself. In the end, its your opinion that matters, not some reviewer's.

    And IMO, Darque DID reply in a useful way -- this is a forum dedicated to the discussion of car computing, not car audio. The car audio section is for discussing how to get your car audio to work with your carpc (sound cards, ground loops, other interference). If you want detailed reviews of different audio components, then look on a forum that is dedicated to that purpose.

    I just did a quick Google search for "car audio forum" and looking here at these results...
    www.caraudioforum.com
    www.caraudiotalk.com
    forum.sounddomain.com

    Questions like his get flamed because they ask something that could easily be answered by a quick web search.

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    i agree with them above, even if he is a rude bugger he is right

    the wise old saying comes to mind here

    "give a man a fish and he will eat for a day
    teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat all day and drink beer"

    go find a good respected shop locally, ask then questions, say what you want and expect and listen to stuff, speakers i like might not be your "style".
    its you who needs to like a system.. and the most amazing speakers might be out of your price range. a shop should be able to tell you what you can afford and give an idea what i may sound like in your car.

    when i had my shop almost 15 years ago now thats what i did. you know after a while, that this speaker will sound really nice with this persons music taste but wont deliver for someone who want some serious noise.

    you be the judge, as its you who has to listen to it

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    Thanks Cooper and thanks Woofnstuff

    I'll take your advice. and will post here if I change my system.
    Currently I'm searching for PC tuning software.

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    Thanks Cooper and thanks Woofnstuff

    I'll take your advice. and will post here if I change my system.
    Currently I'm searching for PC tuning software.

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    If I went with what "everybody" said was the best back when I bought my system, I'd have Infinity Kappa components in my car. But I went to Car Toys and demoed every component they had and was blown away by the Focal comps. They're so smooth and bassy compared to the overly bright Infinity speakers (IMO -- which is what's important).

    Also, don't worry so much about being out of your price range at the store. If you're resourceful (store sales, craigslist, eBay, scratch & dent sales, etc) you can get expensive stuff for cheap. After I demoed those Focals at Car Toys I found the exact model on eBay for less than half of what Car Toys was selling for -- brand new. If anything, find the stuff you love, and then figure out what cheaper models sound similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crooper View Post
    If I went with what "everybody" said was the best back when I bought my system, I'd have Infinity Kappa components in my car. But I went to Car Toys and demoed every component they had and was blown away by the Focal comps. They're so smooth and bassy compared to the overly bright Infinity speakers (IMO -- which is what's important).

    Also, don't worry so much about being out of your price range at the store. If you're resourceful (store sales, craigslist, eBay, scratch & dent sales, etc) you can get expensive stuff for cheap. After I demoed those Focals at Car Toys I found the exact model on eBay for less than half of what Car Toys was selling for -- brand new. If anything, find the stuff you love, and then figure out what cheaper models sound similar.
    I heard that Focal is very good , before I've never heard about focal , as I always order from Amazon and Focal is not there I don't know why.

    That's exactly what I was looking for M8, someone who tried more than one components.

    Frankly speaking I was about to buy Kappa components 6.5 and 5.25.
    depending on your openion I'll search for Focal I hope I can find a site with international shipping.

    Thanks M8

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    Personally, I would recommend against Focal components. They can be quite good, but usually not in the hands of a novice.

    Since you are asking novice questions you should go to several local businesses that will help you decide and have them do the work. If you won't do that, the you might as well just go by Wal-Mart and pick up whatever. There is a very common saying in car audio that installation is 90 plus percent of the job - it's nothing like just buying a couple of speakers and plugging them in to the living room stereo.

    Bottom line, since you're seemingly clueless, go to the place with the best stuff you can afford and work your way down from there if you can't hear a marked difference.

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