Help on speaker setup, PLEASE!!!!!!!!

**digital79** · 06-29-2009, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by jake789

Yes, components are usually always better than 2-way's.

You mean coaxials. 2-way means there are 2 drivers: in this case mid and tweeter, where 'components' means they are separated. Coaxial means they are mounted closely together (on axis -> coaxials). You can have 2-way components and 2 way coaxials.

Originally Posted by jake789

This usually means mounting them as far away as possible which is why people like the kickpanel.

So might as well go with coaxials.

Since you have a carputer, you might as well mount the tweeters up high, and do Time Alignment trough sound card drivers (some can do that). Time Alignment will delay the sound to the closer speaker, making it appear to a listener it is actually further.

**HiJackZX1** · 06-29-2009, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by jake789

Yes, components are usually always better than 2-way's.

Mount the midbass in the stock doors. You will want to deaden the doors if you really want it to sound its best.

The hard part will be tweeter location. A good starting point is to focus both tweeters at a point in between the driver and passenger at eye level. Then play around with different positions until they sound the best. Also remember that the tweeters will sound the best when the left and right are equal distance from the listener. This usually means mounting them as far away as possible which is why people like the kickpanel.

For the rear seats, you might want to try mounting the tweeters in the headliner.

I was walking past a Lexus and I looked in the cabin because the owner was so messy. I was shocked at how someone can treat a luxury car like that. I then looked at the speakers and what do you know, components come stock in all the doors, so thats the route I am going.

Originally Posted by digital79

You mean coaxials. 2-way means there are 2 drivers: in this case mid and tweeter, where 'components' means they are separated. Coaxial means they are mounted closely together (on axis -> coaxials). You can have 2-way components and 2 way coaxials.

So might as well go with coaxials.

Since you have a carputer, you might as well mount the tweeters up high, and do Time Alignment trough sound card drivers (some can do that). Time Alignment will delay the sound to the closer speaker, making it appear to a listener it is actually further.

As far as mounting the tweeters, I was going to put them in the doors also. They will be at ear level though. I guess I have to wait and buy them to see how I am going to set it up.

**thekl0wn** · 06-29-2009, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by digital79

So might as well go with coaxials.

Your tweeter mounting woes mean nothing now... Until you know what you're going with for any of the drivers. Your best bet on the tweets is to get them, and play around with the placements for a good long while. Velcro is great for this part of the process.

What kind of setup are you even looking at? DIY? Shelf-bought? Active? Budget?

**thekl0wn** · 06-29-2009, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by jake789

Mount the midbass in the stock doors. You will want to deaden the doors if you really want it to sound its best.

I would have to append this statement.... Mount your baffle to the stock door. Then mount the mid to the baffle.

**digital79** · 06-29-2009, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by thekl0wn

Your tweeter mounting woes mean nothing now...

Usually people go with components, so they can have a separated tweeter, and them mount it at ear level, and not so low. It's OK though, you can still get better quality than with coaxials. It's just less common to have tweeters so low, as they bring the sound stage down.

**soundman98** · 06-29-2009, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by digital79

Usually people go with components, so they can have a separated tweeter, and them mount it at ear level, and not so low. It's OK though, you can still get better quality than with coaxials. It's just less common to have tweeters so low, as they bring the sound stage down.

a properly setup speaker set in the kick panels will sound just as good if not better than the tweeters mounted up in the pillars(because the tweeters would be nearly on axis w/ the mids). this is becasue humans can hear distance much easier than we hear height.

the time alignment idea will only work if you either: 1: run a active setup(each speaker has its own amplifier channel), and setup a time delay for each individual speaker, or 2: run a computer controlled highpass/lowpass arrangement with separate time delay settings for each, and then combine the signals after the time delay is processed. if you setup a time delay for only the left/right channels, it will apply those same settings to both the mid and tweeter-- and wont get the tweeter sound waves any closer to the mid soundwaves.

hijack, I deffinately recomend you stop by some audio forums, there are many different ways to accomplish a great sounding setup, and it really varies with personal preferance, vehicle, overall cost, and what you want it to sound like.

**jake789** · 06-29-2009, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by thekl0wn

I would have to append this statement.... Mount your baffle to the stock door. Then mount the mid to the baffle.

HiJackZX1 - Follow this guide for your midbass door setup. Don't leave out the deadener as it will make a big difference!

**HiJackZX1** · 06-30-2009, 02:13 PM

UGHHHHHHHHH, It would help if I told you guys the speakers, my bad.....

The speakers I want are these: http://alpine-usa.com/US-en/products...?model=SPR-17S They are 6 1/2 Alpine SPR-17S.

The center and phone speakers will be these: http://alpine-usa.com/US-en/products...?model=SPR-57C They are 5 x 7 Coaxial 2 way speakers.

**digital79** · 06-30-2009, 02:18 PM

Tweeters are different on the component and coax models. You may notice a difference in sound when something that is being played on center moves to the side. It's a good idea to keep center and L/R of same type.

**HiJackZX1** · 06-30-2009, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by digital79

Tweeters are different on the component and coax models. You may notice a difference in sound when something that is being played on center moves to the side. It's a good idea to keep center and L/R of same type.

So what your saying is I should put a 6 1/2 in the dash tooooooooo. I do not have the room for that