Help on speaker setup, PLEASE!!!!!!!!

**soundman98** · 06-30-2009, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by HiJackZX1

So what your saying is I should put a 6 1/2 in the dash tooooooooo. I do not have the room for that

but you have room for a 5x7? then look into using a component 5 1/4" of the same model line as the door speakers.

**HiJackZX1** · 06-30-2009, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by soundman98

but you have room for a 5x7? then look into using a component 5 1/4" of the same model line as the door speakers.

The width of the speaker isnt an issue, its the depth of it. The 6 1/2 is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy deeper. Im going to have to research the center some more.

**HiJackZX1** · 06-30-2009, 03:57 PM

I understand what you all are saying now. What speakers do you guys recommend? I want something similar to the Alpine specs, but is also similarly priced, but is all the same type of speaker, like all coaxial, etc.

**soundman98** · 06-30-2009, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by HiJackZX1

The width of the speaker isnt an issue, its the depth of it. The 6 1/2 is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy deeper. Im going to have to research the center some more.

according to alpines site, the 6 1/2 is 4/16" less than the 5x7 in mounting depth...

**HiJackZX1** · 07-01-2009, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by soundman98

according to alpines site, the 6 1/2 is 4/16" less than the 5x7 in mounting depth...

OH really, you can see how much research I have done, lol.... I was going by looks. Let me ask though, wont it be odd to have a center though thats component? 99.9% of the time its only vocals that come out of the center. Wont it be too much bass?

**soundman98** · 07-01-2009, 02:33 PM

because most of the movie dialogue is going through that channel, it makes it all the more important that it is very clear and articulate, but at the same time, the left/right pair should be just as good, otherwise, anything panning from center to either side will sound different as it makes its transition.

the amount of bass really depends on the signal that you are feeding it. for referance, a 5.1 home theater system is usually setup to pass anything above 80hz to the fullrange speakers.

the from a sound quality standpoint, like digital79 said, it is best to keep all the speakers the same, so the sound isn't way differnet when the sound switches between speakers.

there has also been arguments in the past about how poorly oval speakers work, and that, because of their odd cone shapes, have a tendency to cancel out certain waves and distort easier at higher volume-- mostly because the farthest outer portion of the cone on both sides could potentially move at different rates than the rest of the cone.

I recomended using a component 5 1/4 for the center channel, becasue if space is an issue, and you could only fit a 5x7(instead of the 6 1/2), a 5 1/4 would also fit, and should, in theory, have the same overall sound proerties as the 6 1/2 in the doors.

**HiJackZX1** · 07-01-2009, 03:03 PM

I really don't want to go 5 1/4 because I refuse to mod my doors to fit them. The dash on the other hand, I have modded so much I do not mind. The only thing that sucks is that I will end up with a extra speaker that I do not need. The phone speaker has to stay oval, and really doesn't have to be a component. A 2-way would be fine.

Thanks so much guys for all your input. I really appreciate it.

**soundman98** · 07-01-2009, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by HiJackZX1

I really don't want to go 5 1/4 because I refuse to mod my doors to fit them. The dash on the other hand, I have modded so much I do not mind. The only thing that sucks is that I will end up with a extra speaker that I do not need. The phone speaker has to stay oval, and really doesn't have to be a component. A 2-way would be fine.

Thanks so much guys for all your input. I really appreciate it.

look at the extra speaker as insurance in case you mess one up

**HiJackZX1** · 07-10-2009, 12:58 PM

Im backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, lol

I was just browsing through the net, and I came across these. http://www.cadencestore.com/ProductC...&idproduct=551 Are these any good? I am still lost on the whole RMS and Peak thing. It says they handle 150 RMS and 400 Peak.

I would like to ask about Cadence in general. They seem to make unique speakers, and are in alot of competitions, or so they say.

**soundman98** · 07-10-2009, 01:06 PM

they should pair up perfectly with the pdx 4.100.

rms/max extremely simplified(there is more to figuring out these numbers than this, but for comparison purposes, these are the general rules):

rms is the max wattage the speaker can take for a really long time
max is the wattage that it can only take for very brief times, otherwise it will blow.