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    Want new speakers, dont want to mess it up

    So i was thinkin about puttin new speakers in my car but i have absolutle no idea which way is up when it comes to it. all i know is that I like to listen to music, an i drive everyday, so why not get good speakers.

    Ive got about $750 i can put into speakers/head unit/amp, but idk what to put in. Ive found good deals on what looks like really good speakers/head unit. I never wanted a sub cause i dont want my bass to overwhelm when i decide to listen to grateful dead rather than B.I.G., plus im assuming that good speakers could handle any amount of bass i'd ever really are for

    Speakers-Pioneer TS-C720PRS
    Head unit-Pioneer Premier DEH-P510UB

    What i really want to know is whether or not id need an amp for the combo^....the head unit says it puts out 50W, and the speakers say that they operate between 50-250W, so idk if theyre necessary. Then again, theyre mad nice speakers so im thinkin why wouldnt they need an amp. maybe im comparing the wrong information to each product.

    I havent bought anything yet, so im open to suggestions if maybe im headin down the wrong path here...

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    subs do not need to overwhelm the other speakers. you can setup a sub so you can barely hear it, or so that it is all that you hear...

    those are some very nice speakers, though if you like softer highs, those tweeters are known to be horrible... most high end sound quality places will buy just the mid, and pair it with a better tweeter

    i would recommend getting at least one 10" sub, a mono sub amp, and a amp for the main speakers--when setup correctly, the sub will allow the main speakers to play louder and cleaner.

    overall, those speakers are extremly refined, so they will have very poor bass output(they are really designed to be used with a sub...).

    there are literally millions of different options for stereo stuff. the best advice i can give is to go to a stereo shop(do not go to a large chain store like best buy-- they only want to sell you whatever they have in stock) with some of your favorite music, and try out a bunch of different speakers. a decent shop will be more than willing to work with you to find a speaker/setup that you like.

    and just fyi: this site is mainly dedicated to car computers, so most of the time, audio systems are not the main priority for most of the installs. feel free to stick around though. otherwise, there is a sticky at the top of this forum with some of the car audio only forums.

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    Very interesting review of the PRS components, soundman98. I have to disagree with you on almost every point of it, however.

    I currently have the C720-PRS component set installed in my blazer and powered off a Rockford Power 600-4 amp. They are actively crossed by the head deck, a Pioneer P800-PRS. The speakers are in the factory door location, but heavily sound deadened and doors sealed and reinforced.

    The strongest aspect of this component set I feel is the tweeters. They are not shrill or harsh by any means. They are clean and blend quite transparently with the mids. The mids are decent, and certainly not short on bass. I've heard better speaker, but not for the price!

    I agree you should consider adding a powered subwoofer, it really adds another dimension to the listening experience. And I would definitely get an amp for the Pioneer speakers. They are quite poor on head deck power but really come alive with an amp.

    cheers!

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    the amp power of the head unit is max power, not continuous.

    even a cheap 50W (RMS) x2 amp will be better than the built in one.
    better yet, get a cheap 80Wx4 amp and bridge channel 3+4 to run the sub.
    this way you only have 1 modest amp, and enough channels to run the front and sub speaker. definitely worthwhile having even an 8" or 10" sub compared to nothing.
    most 'front' speakers only work nicely above 100Hz.
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    I would go Infinity if you want some good quality that won't break the bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creyc View Post
    Very interesting review of the PRS components, soundman98. I have to disagree with you on almost every point of it, however.

    I currently have the C720-PRS component set installed in my blazer and powered off a Rockford Power 600-4 amp. They are actively crossed by the head deck, a Pioneer P800-PRS. The speakers are in the factory door location, but heavily sound deadened and doors sealed and reinforced.

    The strongest aspect of this component set I feel is the tweeters. They are not shrill or harsh by any means. They are clean and blend quite transparently with the mids. The mids are decent, and certainly not short on bass. I've heard better speaker, but not for the price!

    I agree you should consider adding a powered subwoofer, it really adds another dimension to the listening experience. And I would definitely get an amp for the Pioneer speakers. They are quite poor on head deck power but really come alive with an amp.

    cheers!
    Quote Originally Posted by BIGGKATT01 View Post
    I would go Infinity if you want some good quality that won't break the bank.
    like i originally said-- go to a local car audio shop and take a listen for your self to different speakers with your own music-- just in this thread, there are 3 different ideas on what speakers sound good...

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    agree with soundman, when Circuit City was open. I went to check out some 5.25" and let me say there not created equal.. some are punchy some are softer sound and other are very bright and crisp.. it all depends on prefrence! I was biased particularly for Infinity Refrence's and walked out with Pioneer 2 ways.. They just blended the mid tones more accuratly in my personal opinion. What 1 person chooses may be the last choice of someone else. I recommend same thing as soundman. Go to a local shop and listen to them..another thing to take into account is try different models of the same manufacturer as for instance Inifinity has many different Refrence models and sounds unique in its own way.
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    i think you post here because that you want to listen different opinion.you also could listen to the salers ,but in my opinon,people here have more experience that is true ,and they will tell you the which is better because they have used them.salers in the shop would say their goods are better ,and they will tell you more their advantages and ignore the disadvantages.
    for sure ,you can listen more opnions online ,then purchase in the shop.hehe!
    but i would like buy it online,i like this way .
    i would say a pair of speakers ,they are really awesome,Polk Audio DB651 car speakers,6.5-inch high-performance marine-certified coaxial speakers, perfect for boats of all types; 180 Watts power handling with 4-ohm impedance ,Swivel-mount tweeter allows precise aiming of sound.i feel lucky for you that now it is only for $35.
    good luck!

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