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    Asus Xonar DS

    This is just a quick question for those that have eliminated their head unit and gone straight from their PC to their amps with this sound card.

    I haven't bought anything yet.... but was wondering how it would be wired?

    Are you using 3.5mm to RCA for each amp? As in most head units have RCA's for high/mid/low is the card treated the same? Can this card filter the specific outputs?

    I've noticed that the card outputs 2V RMS... is that per port or for the entire card?

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    And one thing for those considering this card... this is something that I didn't find anywhere but in one particular review... besides the power from the PCI-Ex slot, it requires another power supply (the little 4-pin berg connector used for floppy drives) kind of like the graphics cards.... not a big deal, but it would have ****ed me off to find this out when I tried to put it in as I've zip tired and taped all my wiring away for better ventilation.
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    The current case and mobo I'm using only has a half height PCI-Ex 1x slot and this is one of the better internal cards. From what I've been able to find, my amps will accept an input voltage from 0.2 up to 8.0. I'm pretty sure that the onboard chip produces just enough voltage... but since when has the bare minimum been enough? And what kind of proformance could you expect?

    I could always put a sound processor between the PC and the amps but I'm not looking to spend that much money.... I doubt that I'll be competing with this car... maybe a few bass-race attempts but that's about it.

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    i believe that user 'wungun' is using that card, and might be able to answer some of the questions that you have-- i haven't seen him post recently that i can remember, so you could try sending him a PM.

    otherwise, my experience with audio cards is hit or miss, mostly miss-- most cards with front/rear/sub outputs only use the rear and sub outputs with a 5.1 source, and audio is usually a 2 channel source...

    this is where computer controlled audio processing comes in...

    i use Audio Mulch(the other popular program is called Console) to process the audio in the computer, and then send it out to the ports that i want(because the program controls it all, i could send the sub signal out to the port labeled front...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundman98 View Post
    this is where computer controlled audio processing comes in...

    i use Audio Mulch(the other popular program is called Console) to process the audio in the computer, and then send it out to the ports that i want(because the program controls it all, i could send the sub signal out to the port labeled front...)
    This is the thing that I'll need then.... assuming that I can cram this card into my case and power it.

    I've checked out the site for Audio Mulch and unless the crippled demo version can do what it is that I need then it's out of the question. For that price ($189) I can just throw my old kenwood deck in and wire the computer in through the aux-in.

    Do you have a link for the Console program? Google is not much help as 'console' is far too common a term.

    This might prove worthwhile yet.

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    http://console.jp/en/

    console has licenses for $50, but is a little more limited in its overall features.

    i started with console, but found audiomulch to be much better, and seemed to run a little smoother--my cpu usage went down a little after switching, and still using the same setup..

    and if you know where to look (piratebay ) audiomulch is cheap


    one thing to remember about these audio processing programs, is that they can do way more than any headunit in any price range can do(if you look towards sound prcoessors, they can do more, but at a price)-- the plugins that can be used in either program(both programs are vst hosts, so you can run the same vst plugins on both programs).

    for instance, my setup-- i currently have 4 crossovers(1 for tweeters, 2 for mids, 1 for subs), 2 instances of sound level adjustment(on both tweeters, to quiet them down), a 32 band eq, and a combiner(to get a mono signal for my subs) running. and i could add far more.

    if you look on www.kvraudio.com, there are thousands of free and paid plugins that you can use to manipulate the sound to do almost anything you want..

    most decks only have 3 crossovers, and start at around $300...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbserver View Post
    Are you using 3.5mm to RCA for each amp? As in most head units have RCA's for high/mid/low is the card treated the same? Can this card filter the specific outputs?
    Yes. The card is capable of 7.1, so you can hook up 3.5mm to RCA for F/R and Sub/Ctr. I have mine hooked up 3.5mm>RCA for the F/R on my 4-channel amp, and the Sub/Ctr out to a separate amp for the sub. I set the speaker setup for 'quadriphonic'. As for filtering - I'd check out the program that was mentioned. I haven't tried filtering. The audio output from this card is superb. Crystal clear, and deep deep lows. I didn't know what I was missing while using on-board sound.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orbserver View Post
    I've noticed that the card outputs 2V RMS... is that per port or for the entire card?
    I think it's per-port, but I can't back that up on paper
    Someone else will have to verify that one if they know. If it's testable with a DMM I would consider seeing what it is but I'm in the process of moving between states so I have no clue where the meter is.


    Quote Originally Posted by Orbserver View Post
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    And one thing for those considering this card... this is something that I didn't find anywhere but in one particular review... besides the power from the PCI-Ex slot, it requires another power supply (the little 4-pin berg connector used for floppy drives) kind of like the graphics cards.... not a big deal, but it would have ****ed me off to find this out when I tried to put it in as I've zip tired and taped all my wiring away for better ventilation.
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    The current case and mobo I'm using only has a half height PCI-Ex 1x slot and this is one of the better internal cards. From what I've been able to find, my amps will accept an input voltage from 0.2 up to 8.0. I'm pretty sure that the onboard chip produces just enough voltage... but since when has the bare minimum been enough? And what kind of proformance could you expect?
    Yes...that little 4-pin floppy power connector is a b**ch. I had to splice one in to get that connector (I had snipped out the floppy power at first to reduce cable mess).
    And this card runs HOT when you've got the tunes cranking through it. Be sure to have a little airflow around it. I didn't at first and I literally burnt my finger when I touched it after taking the case off after getting home from just an hour long test drive after I first installed it.

    I think you'll be happy with the card...I think it even has ASIO support which may help with the filtering you mentioned. I really have no clue though...I installed it...it sounded phenomenal, rocked my ears til they bled and I passed out and didn't worry about the rest

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    Yeah, I'm running two of these Asus cards...PCI version, not the DX2...
    The PCI version does not require aux power, and this is part of the reason I went with the PCI cards...

    I don't want to say anything about the output voltage, other than there is plenty to drive the amps!
    I made my own 3.5mm-to-female-RCA jacks, (chassis mounted RCA's), then from there, made individual RCA-to-RCA interconnects to the amps...



    Also, I'm using Audiomulch for my crossovers, so I needed the exact specified output from all channels on the cards...this was a major issue with the center/sub jack on all the Xonar drivers, except one! But I managed it...

    I dunno if I'm following you, but why do you want to run Console/Mulch?

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    Thanks for all the info... I'll be getting the card on the next paycheck and I'm 'demoing' some programs to see which I like best.

    I really like the idea of skipping the HU and going straight from the PC to the amps... I'll worry about radio later, if at all. And if anyone is interested, I can post back with the results.

    Again, Thanks.

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    For sure, keep us updated!

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