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    Rearfill > Speaker decision?

    I'm about to start setting up the audio system in the car. Already purchased the JL 300/4 Amp and JL XR650 Components for fronts. Now I'm stuck on a choice of speakers for rearfills, my car is a mazda 6. So a 5x7 speaker would be a direct drop in/replacement (since it's a ford design). So I've been thinking of getting a pair of 5x7 coaxils in the back.

    But after talking to some installers at nearby shops they advised me to stick with 6 1/2" all around. Which means JL XR650 Coaxils in the back. While I do realize that there is some minor disadvantages to going to an ellyptical cone for bass reproduction etc, is it really that major of a factor?

    Needless to say i was not completely convinced by any sales at the nearby shops, so I come to ask for advice here
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    Well, I am speaking from my last car only having 5 1/4's all around and it sucked. Talk about no bass. Could not even listening to my favorite jazz it was soo bad. I don't know if you plan on putting in subs or anything else. but the 6 1/2 will only take you down in freq. I guess 5X7 will not give you much more in size but I can just picture a car with all mid -> high. I am by no means a speaker expert thought so come one other people, reply too.

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    rear fill =

    Now if you have many instances where people are riding in the back seat, by all means research and find what's right for you. Personally though I would only worry about front stage and a woofer or two in the trunk. Of course I don't have many people riding in the back seat and my 2 year old son has never asked me to turn the music up.

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    I've never ridden in the back of a Mazda 6, so I don't know what it sounds like back there. Personally, I've always disconnected the rear speakers on every single car I have ever owned. Mind you, I've made sure that everything is nice and kick *** up the front!

    You mentioned your fronts and your amp - are you planning on installing a sub? If yes, then you won't really need help in the bass department.

    What about installing your new front stage and amp and listen to how that sounds? If you don't need the rears, save your money.

    Rear fill has a place. But it's fill, and designed for ambience. If your car can reproduce this (and 2nd gen MX6's, which is what I happen to have, are excellent at this) with out you having to install more stuff and provide more channels and spend more money, then why bother?


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    C4M makes some great points. It's best to only provide the rear speakers enough power so that you can barely hear them compared to the front speakers. As C4M states, the rear can be considered as fill. I think my head unit fades from rear to front -10 to 10, and I have it set at 7.

    I actually am still using factory 6x9s and they sound fine. Just be sure to spend your money on the front speakers.

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    yeah I keep the fade on my car so that the rear is down so I can just barely notice it. I would not want to have no rears at all though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brrman
    yeah I keep the fade on my car so that the rear is down so I can just barely notice it. I would not want to have no rears at all though.
    Oh you know you want that way.....

    Seriously it sounds better to me that way. I want my front stage to provide the nescisary bass so that I don't need rear speakers. It all blends so well. I think you would be very pleased if you listened to my system. My rear speaker holes are just ports now that up the bass that much more.

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    Hmmm! Maybe i should setup the fronts first and see how it sounds. I was 100% sure I was going to get the rears too, but after reading these replies I'm starting to seriously question that!

    Ahhh! More choice & more problems! *Head explodes*
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    Actually it depends on what you are trying to achieve with your audio setup.
    For me personally, I am installing two sets of Alpine 177a component speakers. One set for the front stage, and one for a rear stage. I am doing this becuase I will be utilizing 4.1 surround for DVD's, and mp3's/CD's/etc... Besides, I like being immersed in sound. I don't really like knowing what direction it is coming from (front or back).

    So, if you are merely listening to music, feel free to go with just a front stage, but if you are watching DVD's why not get the full effect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiztope
    Actually it depends on what you are trying to achieve with your audio setup.
    For me personally, I am installing two sets of Alpine 177a component speakers. One set for the front stage, and one for a rear stage. I am doing this becuase I will be utilizing 4.1 surround for DVD's, and mp3's/CD's/etc... Besides, I like being immersed in sound. I don't really like knowing what direction it is coming from (front or back).

    So, if you are merely listening to music, feel free to go with just a front stage, but if you are watching DVD's why not get the full effect?
    I agree if he's looking for surround sound yes this is what you want, but with surrond sound you do know where the sounds are coming from. For example a bullet wizzing will go from one direction to the next. With front stage you want to feel like you're at a concert and want to know where dudes/chics in the band are playing there instruments based on a concert stage setting. Rear fill effects this negatively.

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