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Thread: Camaro / firebird Monsoon setup (NOT VW) HELP

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    However you did it should be good if it's working. Hmm, parallel. I think this has been covered before. The HU has 4 channels powering the 4 tweeters and the 4 speaker level inputs to the monsoon. It's probably 20W each. Then the monsoon powers the 4 midrange and 2 dual voice mid-bass/subs. You can replace the HU with a low power 4 channel amp to retain the same volume and still drive the tweeters. A 2 channel would need to drive 2 channels each (front + rear). Not sure what the resistance would be though, but anyway connect like so...

    front left - rear left -
    front left + rear left +
    front right - rear right -
    front right + rear right +

    You get the idea.

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    See for sale section for my entire setup

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    thanks for the reply. Your information is incredibly useful. i found an amp on ebay that is (i think) built for motorcycles, however it is 100w rms and very tiny. i made an offer and got it for $27 shipped! i know what you guys said about you get what you pay for in an amp, but i figured at $27 it was worth a try. it is only a 2 channel amp, but it does an amazing job. as i mentioned above i can count on one finger how many times i have needed to adjust the left to right or front to back fading, so i am def not worried about loosing any of that. i have it all hooked up and the amp turned most of the way down, and everything sounds amazing. at least to me and my non audiophile ears . Thank you guys for your help, i hope this thread will help future installers as much as it helped me!
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    ok guys so i have another question for you that hopefully you can help me out with. Currently i have my mac mini wired directly into my factory monsoon sound system. i am using an intermediary amp to help compensate for the lack of power coming from my sound card. the problem is that i am getting a lot of interference noise in my sound. essentially, if i have my music paused i get this constant barrage of noise that corresponds to my harddrive spinning or my mouse moving, or really anything happening on my computer. if i have my music running loud enough you really can't hear it, but in a slow part of a song or with the music paused (to make a phone call or whatever) the sound is really annoying. to make this clear this is not engine noise (noise that corresponds to the rpm of the motor). to provide some clarification here is how my setup looks:
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    quick secondary note, i bought a install edge ground loop isolator, and just a noise suppressor, and installed each one separately, once before the intermediate amp and then again once after. nothing stopped the noise. also i tried without the griffin imic and it just made the noises louder
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    It would definitely be louder with the onboard audio with all the different noises bouncing around in the PC, but even with an external DAC? That's a little odd. Most likely it's the amp. Like I said, you get what you pay for. But you should be able to reduce the noise a lot by turning the gain on the amp down. Set the PC volume and wave to 100% and lower the amp gain until it's reasonable or just about gone, then play some music and turn it back up. Then find a happy medium between the two.

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    yeah pretty much that is what i have been doing to tolerate it already. the amp is strong enough to push the monsoon well enough with the gain all the way down. and really with the sound up it doesn't sound bad at all, once again it is just if you have someone in the car and want to carry on a conversation, the sound is really annoying. i read some posts about running your cables away from all power lines, then that should help, but i didn't notice anything different when i tried it. if anybody has any other ideas im all ears.
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    ok so i did some more searching a reading and found a thread that was talking about line drivers and how that could help reduce such noises. it just so happens that i had one of these laying around (it was actually installed in my car from the previous owner) so i hooked that up to the above configuration, just before the intermediate amp. and it worked, sort of. it eliminated the weird computer noise but i realized that the monsoon amp was not turning on. i was hearing sound come through the front speakers and the very back tweeters ( in the hatchback ) but nowhere else. it was kind of weird. without the line driver, the monsoon amp picks up on the noise through the speakers and kicks on, however with the line driver hooked up before the intermediate amp, i get nothing except tweeters. very odd, if you ask me.
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    That is odd. I'd expect it to drive the monsoon and you'd hear mid and bass but no tweeters. There is a difference between how the Camaro and Firebird are set up, but forget what that is. Maybe the front speakers are driven by the HU, but it still doesn't make sense. A line driver is basically an amp with line level input but has no power to drive speakers.

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    yeah it is very odd. i want to make sure i said the right thing. i am using an install edge AULOC which i think is a line driver (at least that is what i have been calling it). as best i can tell it is supposed to make the input for the amp the correct level. either way, i could turn the amp all the way up, and the tweeters were very loud. loud enough that i would have thought there was enough signal for the monsoon to pick up on. very weird. oh well, i will continue the search.
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