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    Uhhhh I don't thinkso dude

    even with DSP
    you mean DTS??? DSP is just "digital surround processor" and yes that is what i have as does anybody with surround sound even if they have soundcard that supports 5.1. I have an external one by panasonic (CYAC300EX) that was made for the car.

    One thing you are right about is that it doesn't sound as good as a home system but that goes without saying. How can you expect to have a home stereo system in your car.

    One thing i will say is that it sounds friggen awesome and is worth and beats out any stereo setup any day of the week hands down.

    Placebo effect..... i don't think so. Everbody i have had in my car has left saying it sounded like they were at the movies. I didn't even tell them i had surround sound, i just said check this out.... and put on the matrix reloaded and let them judge for themselves.

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    Falcony.

    The truth is that i am in my car a lot and i do enjoy the fruits of my labor and if you are ever in Santa Cruz Cali give me a shout and we will go cruz.

    Stereo may be suffeciant for you but honestly doesn't touch Dolby Digital 5.1
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    Yes I meant DSP, not DTS. Your stage is so ridiculously small that even a crafty DSP can't delay the signals enough to make things realistic or movie theater-like for me. You conceed that it doesn't sound as good as home theater but that all your friends claim it sounds just like the movies? How does that figure?


    How can you expect to have a home stereo system in your car.
    I appreciate you making my point for me.

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    Nice try... but no go

    Yes i am agreeing with you that i the sound stage small and will not sound as good as at home BUT it still sounds awesome.

    Yes you say that you dont have it because you can't justify it with the added benifits. I say that the benifits justify the cost. I say that it is so much better than stereo at that it sounds magnificant and that every one that has left my car has left amazed. Come up to Santa Cruz for a visit and hear for yourself and stop lying to yourself.

    Your stage is so ridiculously small that even a crafty DSP can't delay the signals enough to make things realistic or movie theater-like for me.
    Get a hearing aide dude i can hear bullets fly past me, doors opening and shutting behind me and other surround effects just fine.

    You say it is not worth it...hmmmm would someone listen to someone who has it and has set it up or someone who doesn't?

    If you don't want it **** don't put it in the car but don't go around telling people it is not worth it just becasue you can't find a need for it.

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    2 things...

    1. I am stuck on the edge of getting an external unit like yours. Here's where I stand, P4 2.4GHz Mini-ITX board with Smart 5.1 enabled. Using the Analog signal right to my amps, it works great. But, It converts my volume controls. Master volume becomes front. Then it adds center/sub and rear controls. This is fine, but in an app like MediaCar, adjusting the volume only affects the Master, which is the Front speakers. If I check the one setting in MediaCar setup to link wave/aux/line... Then everything else goes up except for the front.
    Anyone know of a way to link them ALL?


    2. DSP is actually 'Digital Signal Processor' - not necessarily surround
    (just had to nit-pick because I develop firmware for DPS's)

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    1. thats why i went with a Digital Surround Processor becasue it has an external volume control which is needed. I don't have smart 5.1 enabled and am using the S/PDIF digital port to the DSP.

    2. It can be both.
    (just had to nit-pick because I develop firmware for DPS's)
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    Quote Originally Posted by antimatter
    Falcony.

    The truth is that i am in my car a lot and i do enjoy the fruits of my labor and if you are ever in Santa Cruz Cali give me a shout and we will go cruz.

    Stereo may be suffeciant for you but honestly doesn't touch Dolby Digital 5.1
    I won't go back and forth with you because neither of us will change our minds, but if you posted how much you spent I guarantee I could find equipment within that price range that isn't surround sound (just a front stage and subs) that would kill it. I even think what I've spent would give you a run for your money. 3 jl 10w6's. 2 kenwood 5 1/4 mids. stock tweets in upper dash. Kenwood amp pushing front stage, mtx pushing subs(total price under 600 bux). Anyways I'll let you have your thread back, but just like you feel others haven't heard a surround sound car system I feel you have't really heard a high quality sound system minus surround. In the end though like I said if I were in the car as much as you I'd consider it, but money is always an object with me.

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    I believe that you have some equipment that sounds tight... however the fact still reamins that stereo CANNOT give Dolby Digital Surround sound a run for its money no matter what components are installed.

    You think that i haven't been to car shows and heard compitition stereo setups....

    I know what good sound and clean sound sounds like.
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    Wish I lived back in Cali so I could check out your system. Glad you like it so much since I will be doing a 5.1 system too. Still trying to plan it out. How does that sound with just a stereo signal feeding in? Does it feed it into all 5.1 channels still?

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    With my DSP it decodes stero as PCM. You have a bunch of options on what speakers to send it to. It has a few different effects DSE1 DSE2 DSE3 (home, stage, theater) These mix to all six channels. You can also Use ProLogic I but that nixes out the sub channel. You can use 2 stereo and 4 stereo. 2 stereo uses the front 2 channels and the subwoofer. 4 stereo uses front and rear channels and the subwoofer.

    You also have individual gain on each channel which is nice.

    I usually roll with DSE1 or 4 Stereo.

    It your ever out in this area give me a shout out and we could make arrangments.
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