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    Quote Originally Posted by scott_fx View Post
    did you read the review about those tweets:
    http://www.zaphaudio.com/tweetermishmash/

    the North D2506-S seems like they would be a better choice, don't you think?
    I enjoyed this site very much. There are some good tidbits that provided some info for me. The temperature effect on a woofer, 3" driver comparison. Thanks for the site!

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    RedGTi,

    No I am NOT the kind of person who thinks it's pointless to have a good sounding stereo system in your car, home, office, MP3, PC, wherever. I love listening to music and making one. I am a semi professional musician and a band master (Plays piano drums guitar bass flute and learning sax now) and a recording engineer. (My business card reads Senior Research Enginner at DaimlerChrysler)

    I am also a DIY nutcase. I make my own amplifiers and speakers (for home). At one point, I was talking to Dolby labs, trying to get a one off licensing for a DIY dolby digital decoder. (they said NO WAY Jose)

    The reason for "Can't justify spending that kind of money" is because I've got other things and hobbies that sucks my money. Period. If I use that Focal or ScanSpeak unit, I know I'll want to get the other things (like amp, processor, sound treatment, etc) up to the same level. Then it'll run me thousands. I simply don't have that kind of money for cars.

    Besides, I believe that, with proper MEASUREMENT (something that lot of audio enthousiasts seriously lacks of doing) and SETUP, my $20 tweeter can sound pretty darn good. I know it'll never be as good as properly installed Focals, but I know I can make them sound better than Focals in a crappy setup.

    Hey, The Money for my Home Theatre I put together in my basement, along with all the recording gears and measurement equipments, I could have bought a small Cessena 172 (I'm a Pilot too (VFR only tho ).

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    DIY nutcases are the best...

    I understand having other areas, I've just run into a LOT of people who try an talk down about car audio, but will spend gobs and gobs of money on something else they find just as fulfilling.

    Monte and I are determined to set a $1500 budget and get an old car and try and build the best install we can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedGTiVR6 View Post

    Monte and I are determined to set a $1500 budget and get an old car and try and build the best install we can.
    Totally Possible. Mine with everything including the carputer ~$1600. ...And can even run with the big dawgs at sound comps. My favorite last year were my $5 paper cone Aura midrange range drivers.

    I bet you could build a SQ comp car without a carputer easily for $1000. You just need to knwo what to look for and where to find it.

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    I respect people with a passion on their hobbies, no matter how silly it may seem (to others). Not just "do it with money", but "do it with passion". I am sure you understand this.

    Now RedGTi, you got me thinking...

    Seems like you do Car Audio competition etc. Is there a category for something like, Sub $1000 system including car and the audio - kindda thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonsjwou View Post
    I respect people with a passion on their hobbies, no matter how silly it may seem (to others). Not just "do it with money", but "do it with passion". I am sure you understand this.

    Now RedGTi, you got me thinking...

    Seems like you do Car Audio competition etc. Is there a category for something like, Sub $1000 system including car and the audio - kindda thing?
    That would be an interesting competiton. Money is never taken into account for any system in the competiton scene, but in SQ looks and appearance are taken into account. You must have install pics for pretty much everything down to how well your wires are attached to your speakers. Most divisions are divided amongst amplifier power ratings, and the level is determined by how the equipment was purchased, and modifications done to the vehicle. Every organization has its own set of rules though on how this is determined.

    However, in the SPL arena, I have seen some cars that came right out of a junkyard that barely even run. So spending $1000 on a car and system you "could" essentially compete in SPL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonsjwou View Post
    I respect people with a passion on their hobbies, no matter how silly it may seem (to others). Not just "do it with money", but "do it with passion". I am sure you understand this.

    Now RedGTi, you got me thinking...

    Seems like you do Car Audio competition etc. Is there a category for something like, Sub $1000 system including car and the audio - kindda thing?

    There is a basic class. It's designed for people who want to see what all the fuss is about and want to give it a go.

    They do very basic install scoring and the SQ scoring is very basic as well.

    Otherwise, no. you simply can't divide classes up based on what someone paid.

    I'd be in a class a lot lower than what the retail is on my equipment, not to mention the $15k or so in labor that was free since we did it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by durwood View Post
    I enjoyed this site very much. There are some good tidbits that provided some info for me. The temperature effect on a woofer, 3" driver comparison. Thanks for the site!
    you're welcome. he has a lot of great plans for diy speakers if you get into that hobby :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by RedGTiVR6 View Post
    Monte and I are determined to set a $1500 budget and get an old car and try and build the best install we can.
    that sounds like a lot of fun!

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonsjwou View Post
    I actually listened to these before. They sounded really good for what it was worth.
    that's all that matters...if it sounded good to you. i just wanted to show you some other options in case you hadn't heard them
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    4 Ohm Amplifier, 8 Ohm speakers. Distortion.

    Hello,

    In my car I have an Alpine MRV-F407 car amplifier which is rated at 160 Watts per channel into 4 Ohms. On my parcel shelf I have two Mission 780se bookshelf speakers which are rated at 150 Watts per channel and 8 Ohms.

    Can anyone see any reason why this arrangement should cause damage to the speakers?

    I have never had it playing particularly loudly, but they do make the occasional buzz and last night the music became heavily distorted so I turned it off straight away. Even as I turned the volume down it still sounded very much distorted. I waited a while before turning it back on and they've since been ok, but I am worried that I am going to damage the speakers.

    These are the only speakers I have so I would rather not wire them in parallel to make the load 4 Ohms as it would then be mono.

    I should appreciate any information anyone could offer. Many thanks.

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    8 ohms is safer then 4 ohms. that amp is only putting 40watts rms per chan. so unless you are using it in two chan mode you are only getting 20 watts to each speaker. if you're bridging the amp then you are getting 50wrms. you should make sure that your gains are set correctly on the amp. that is what is going to destroy the speakers. you should start a dedicated thread since this is off the topic of this thread.

    also. those better be bolted down securely or else you are going to need to find a new head if you get in an accident
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    Transflective Xenarc

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