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    this was posted by a member of the corvette forum and i thought this thread would benefit from it:

    In a good system you should be able to close your eyes and picture yourself in the 5th row, front and center, of a symphony. You should be able to "see" where every instrument was during the recording. Each instrument should have a precise location, ie: if the piano is in the rear left of the stage then it should stay there throughout it's whole range. A common problem would be to hear the piano float around depending on the octive.

    If you picture yourself in a symphony all the action takes place in front of you, not behind you, and you are not sitting on the stage. If you put in rear speakers not only will you lose your front soundstage put intruments will begin to float around easier and you will feel like you have headphones on or are standing in the middle of the orchestra, not watching from the seats.

    You can probably put midbass speakers in the rear of the car because you can't localize anything under about 400hz.

    Now all that being said, you should go for what you want. If you like the sound next to you instead of in front then throw in the rear speakers.

    Good luck,
    BJ

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    I think the reason a lot of people want rear speakers are just for the fact that was just posted by scott_fx, that you cant really tell where the sub 400 hz tones are coming from, and odds are, the door speakers will not be able to do those notes too well, so people add rear speakers and think they are what made the system so much better, when really its because their front speakers were not properly installed or are not as good as they could be.

    But once again, for surround sound or for split signal (like playing one source in the front and one in the back), then you need speakers all around .

    Are we done with the debate yet?

    Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkciti View Post
    I think you're mistaken. If you were right, companies wouldn't be spending millions of dollars on developing SPDIF, 5.1, THX, etc.

    If done properly, a car could be a perfect mini-theatre within itself (obviously not while driving). Car's are a very conducive environment for movies and audio when parked.
    A small amount of rear fill can only be a good thing. People always try to apply home environment theories to the car, and as has proven time and again, they are not the same acoustically. Plus, why not? It doesn't require an expensive speaker, and can only help when applied correctly. Mine are -11db, and it's perfect for my car. Next one may be different, but part of the fun is the experimentation.

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    this thread was a year and a half old, no need to bring it back -_-;

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    Quote Originally Posted by pikers View Post
    A small amount of rear fill can only be a good thing. People always try to apply home environment theories to the car, and as has proven time and again, they are not the same acoustically. Plus, why not? It doesn't require an expensive speaker, and can only help when applied correctly. Mine are -11db, and it's perfect for my car. Next one may be different, but part of the fun is the experimentation.


    i think the thing that we overlook most is this: there is no correct answer. it's all a matter of preference.
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