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    I am having the same dilemma, I have alot of music that I would like to listen in my truck ('99 Chevy Silverado with 250,000 miles so I drive alot). I thought about getting a portable Digital Audio Player but none of them have the functionality I want for a $300-$400 device (And I am anti-Pod until they fix there 'scratching problem'). One of the biggest problems is the hard drive storage space. I need twice the space of the current largest Ipod. So I decided on building a very low budget CarPC. Maybe a very old laptop (looking on eBay) with an external harddrive since the largest 2.5" hard drive in market is 120GB that is price at $230. I was waiting for perpendicular HDD from Seagate to hit my market. The perpendicular HDD will immediately increase the disk space to 160GB and eventually up to the space 10x of the older drives. Silly but informative video from Hitachi about this. http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/resear...Animation.html

    As for your question, is 100 gig's of MP3s needed? No, but it is very hard for an indecisive person (me) to go threw his 127GB music collection and decide what I did not want to listen to.

    (For the person that says 100GB would last more than a year,
    126.98GB
    28111 tracks in playlist, average track length: 4:02
    Estimated playlist length: 1890 hours 44 minutes 3 seconds
    These are in bitrates from 320kbps to 128kbps)
    1890.73hrs / 24hrs = 78.78 days

    As for Best Buy, in my local area they are not any better. I usually go into the stores to get "hand's on experience" with the products and then buy them online. I love going into those stores and helping the costumers by steering them out the door. The mark-up i
    s ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooah
    (For the person that says 100GB would last more than a year,
    126.98GB
    28111 tracks in playlist, average track length: 4:02
    Estimated playlist length: 1890 hours 44 minutes 3 seconds
    These are in bitrates from 320kbps to 128kbps)
    1890.73hrs / 24hrs = 78.78 days


    You completely forgot the key part.. it's only while you are in your car. 78 days / 365 days = 21.3% of the time. unless you are in your car for 5 hours a day, every.single.day (holidays, weekends, etc etc), you won't use all that up in under a year. And assuming our 30mph, you'd have gone 56,721.9 miles (1890.73*30)..

    Do you really travel 56K miles/year?

    No. Therefore 100GB will last you over a year. Assuming you travel the avg 10-15K miles per year (so 12,500 miles we'll say), that would last you 4.5 years.

    ..not 78 days.

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    Well he does have 250k miles on a '99 vehicle. Assuming he got it in '98, that's 7 years. 250k/7 = ~35k miles a year, so he's not so far off. In his case it might make more sense. But what makes the most sense, is just like me, going through 100+ gigs of music just isn't worth the time. Hard drives are cheap enough and if you plan out using a 3.5" drive in your setup, why not get a drive that will handle it? At 25-50 cents a gig, it'd be a lot cheaper to get a bigger drive than spend time going through the whole collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrataG
    Well he does have 250k miles on a '99 vehicle. Assuming he got it in '98, that's 7 years. 250k/7 = ~35k miles a year, so he's not so far off. In his case it might make more sense. But what makes the most sense, is just like me, going through 100+ gigs of music just isn't worth the time. Hard drives are cheap enough and if you plan out using a 3.5" drive in your setup, why not get a drive that will handle it? At 25-50 cents a gig, it'd be a lot cheaper to get a bigger drive than spend time going through the whole collection.
    Still, we just calculated it'll last over 56K miles/year.. if he does 35k/year, it'll last him for about a year and 7 months. Certainly more than the 78 days he was implying.

    Let's also remember that's to hear each song once. You'd only hear your favorite song once every year and 1/2.. and every other song once.. Assuming you don't mind hearing the same song more than once a year, you still don't need all that music.

    Now I'm not debating if it's woth going through your music to select stuff to put on the CarPC. It's not. Dump it all on there, sure.

    My point is though, even if you drive 56,000 miles per year you will have heard each song in your collection only once that year. You don't NEED the 100gb, although it's certainly easier to have it than have 20gb of "sorted" music.

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    Whether someone "needs" 100Gb of music in there car is irrelevant. Do all of us need computers in are cars? I think part of the fun is being able to listen to whatever you want whenever you want. I probably listen to 20% of my music 80% of the time. I have a lot of music that I don't listen to very much but my gf really likes. Also, just think how cool it would be when someone gets in your car and they like to listen to some relatively obscure artist/album/song and you say "ok" press a few buttons and play it for them!

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    Jeez people, I thought my 40GB was overkill. I only have 10GB of music that I could listen to at any one particular time, and of that, I'd say that only 5GB or so of it I'd be interested in listening to on a regular basis.

    When I got a new car, I pulled the car computer, shelved it and I've been looking for a reasonable way to integrate it back into the new car, but in the mean time I've gotten an iPod with Peripheral's iPod2Car adapter and with the exception of the few songs I realized I didn't actually want to listen to on a regular basis, I can leave my 4GB iPod on shuffle and never hear the same song twice in the same day, which is enough for anyone. You know you're not listening to your music saying "I heard this YESTERDAY, and changing the song." As far as controls go, I don't see how much control you think you need, different moods and/or passengers dictate different sets of songs, so make different playlists.

    I won't comment on movies as I plan on removing the rear seats from my car and my only passenger isn't going to get too bored because I can hold a conversation. :P Not to mention I can't watch the same movie twice in a month, and usually in 6 months. So that's out.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my car computer when it's in a car, but I personally just can't find 100GB of good music to listen to, much less the money to purchase it (or find it to download, arg matey.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbh
    Whether someone "needs" 100Gb of music in there car is irrelevant. Do all of us need computers in are cars? I think part of the fun is being able to listen to whatever you want whenever you want. I probably listen to 20% of my music 80% of the time. I have a lot of music that I don't listen to very much but my gf really likes. Also, just think how cool it would be when someone gets in your car and they like to listen to some relatively obscure artist/album/song and you say "ok" press a few buttons and play it for them!
    That is it exactly. We all know that a big reason (or should I say advantage) for having a CarPC is to show it off and make your friends envy. I love having a friend pick an artist and almost guarantee that I have it. And you can get a 250GB SATA HDD on NewEgg for $101. I just need to find the easiest way to decode the MP3 files and play them on my truck's stereo. I still think an old Laptop.

    I did what some previous poster did today, went into a Circuit City and asked the Car Audio Technician, "I want to integrate 100+ Gigs of music into my car stereo." He didn't seem that stunned though, he just said, "I can't do that." But, I looked at some of their touch screen stereos for ~$1,000! Very nice, but way to expensive for me.
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    Typo with my sig, I have a '99 not a '98.
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    Regardless of the other posts If you want a cheap solution : Buy a inverter, Buy a Used xbox, buy a fm transmitter, buy a 160 gig hard drive. Softmod the xbox , transfer your 100 gb of songs by ftp on the xbox. Get a hip pad remote (10 $) Take the 2.5 inch screen off that and install it in your dash, install a power button on your xbox controller and your set...

    Total will cost you like 220$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinlekiller
    Regardless of the other posts If you want a cheap solution : Buy a inverter, Buy a Used xbox, buy a fm transmitter, buy a 160 gig hard drive. Softmod the xbox , transfer your 100 gb of songs by ftp on the xbox. Get a hip pad remote (10 $) Take the 2.5 inch screen off that and install it in your dash, install a power button on your xbox controller and your set...

    Total will cost you like 220$.
    Did a quick search for anyone that is following this post. Here is a link to an Xbox mod that Kevin talks about. Anyone else have an opinion on this, like how well does it work. Have any of you tried it. It sounds like it should work. And with the new Xbox coming out, the prices should be cheap! Thanks for your input.
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