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    Quote Originally Posted by JC-S60
    Personally I think computer speakers in the car are not a good idea.

    The color doesn't match the interior of my car very well...


    Sure that one wasn't posted yet
    get them out of the enclosure then
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    I'm just posting in this thread for old times sake...

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    well.... might be good excuse, i can use some time
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruckinMP3
    Still waiting

    Yeah so wheres all the guys with their pc speakers taped up in their vehicles bumpin hard with their 6" "SUB" woofer.. ahahah They must have all realized their idocracy and put their tail between their legs and ran and hid!

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    I ended up with an extra set of z560 4.1 speakers after a warranty thing.. I gutted the amp out of sub enclosure and sealed it because the speaker was still good- reduce, reuse, be a cheap-azz. Well, I didn't expect it too hit too hard, but even though it is an 8ohm sub being driven by my optimus car amp, (yeah that'll be 25 bucks for a good 460 watts) the thing kicks ***. I like the fact it sticks with the whole "computer" theme since it has it's logitec logos on it.
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    welll all i know is im waiting patiently for his results...


    hell im about to go grab mine and set them up in my car with an extention cord. see how well they fair competing with the exhaust and engine noises......

    this was great entertainment for a sleepless night.!!! thanks guys!!!

    ok, felt like adding something positive...

    so the point of you using pc speakers are cost and ease of installation, correct?

    how much did you spend on your carputer? if you spent more than what it would be for a head unit that will play mp3cd's, and a cheep standalone GPS solution(providing thats what you use your computer for, as i do, pretty much for gps and music), then the computer is not cost effective.

    a decent headunit is 150. a stand alone gps... 300-600 for a decent one, nothing fancy.

    personally, i spent over 1k for my carputer, and that was reusing parts from past computers. granted the pc does alot more than a head unit and gps, but still the comparasin is the same when you consider the ease of installation.

    to install an aftermarket headunit requires the purchase of one, a wiring harness, and about an hour(tops) in your car. or you can use the factory one, which amounts to 0 dollars spent, and no time wasted.

    a stand alone gps takes 30 minutes to install. put suction cup on windshield, plug everything in, and your done.

    i personally spent a week of bench testing, and then a week installing my computer in my car, and have spent the last year tweaking it, and i will likely never finish that process.


    so heres my question: why would you spend the time, effort, and money to do something that very few people do, to wuss out and take a shortcut on something?

    its like painting the mona lisa, and putting it in a frame that was on clearance at k-mart because it wasnt square.

    the general goal of a carpc is to integrate a pc into a car, and make it look as OE as possible (IE not mickey-mouse'd), so why would you go putting computer speakers in, when for about the same price, you could have a totally decent system(you obviously dont care about sq or spl, just as long as there is sound), something thats actually ment for what you are doing.

    i guess it comes down to, why would do something half ***? esp if you have already spent the time and money to do it right the rest of the way (assuming you have, note my screen and loose fan...)

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    wow... this thread is OLD...

    i'm gonna restate some things that i'm sure have already been stated in summary form:
    -PC speakers aren't powerful enough for the car audio environment (notice the "maximum output" stat on most of these speakers? the average stock car audio system can hit 120db. the average PC speakers hit 103 or less.)
    -the actual drivers in PC speakers are too small (most PC speakers use 3" or smaller drivers running full range. The stock component system in a car is typically a dome tweeter with a 6.5" mid: higher power handling, more radiating area, more midbass, louder overall, less intermodulation distortion.) (also, the small size of these drivers means low xmax figures... these drivers are easily driven out of xmax, which causes increased distortion.)
    -the amps in a typical PC Speaker system don't put out the advertised power, or, if they do, its at an absurdly high THD (in other words, it cannot put out rated power unless, lets say, 10% distortion is added, an easily audible amount.)

    driver size, t/s params, power handling, actual amp output, and higher distortion make PC speakers ill suited to the car audio environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6
    the CRAP (and I mean that in every sense of the word) at WalMart is honnestly worse than what you would find at your local flea market...lol
    Go take a look at the new version of Walmart's Durabrand 6x9s with 30oz magnets, rubber surrounds and polypropylene cones. Frankly, they sound amazing for under $20. Not that I would ever consider running them, in fact I don't much care to patronize Walmart, but I have used them in several budget installs recently, and I don't think you can find another 6x9 in a retail store that sounds as good for under $50.

    With suprisingly decent car speakers available for only 18 bucks, it's hard to imagine why anyone would even bother trying to use PC speakers.
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    Well, I'm gonna add a bit of fuel to the fire...

    How 'bout a hybrid? I'm well aware of the limitations of pc speakers and the challenges of getting decent sound in a vehicle. So I'm going to try a combination of pc and car audio gear. My viewpoint is that, say, 70% what you hear will be covered at reasonable listening levels by the satellites in a set of pc speakers. Where they fall flat is low frequencies and overcoming road noise.

    Here's my intended install-

    Front stage- 3x Cambridge Soundworks little cube speakers, gutted where necessary and outfitted with close to equivalent volume enclosures as possible. These will be supplemented by 2x mb quart 6 inch drivers, in small sealed and filled enclosures, crossed over to match where the Cambridges fall flat.

    rear surrounds 2x Cambridge Soundworks

    sub- TBD; either two 8" or a single 12" likely. PC "sub" (5-1/4" driver) will not be installed.

    the pc speakers will be powered by their original teeny amp, which is a 12v powered thingie- these speakers are also 4ohm so can be easily driven by a small car amp or two if the original amp clips too soon.

    the Quarts will have a nice oldschool soundstream powering them and will be crossed over with either a vintage audiocontrol 2xs or a switchable nak...

    sub amp TBD... probably a cheap class-D.

    things to be considered-

    This setup will never be loud LOUD, but you know what? I don't listen to anything that loud anymore- I damaged my hearing already from listening for extended lengths at high volumes and moderation is an acceptable alternative to deafness in my mind.

    I will be testing this before I permanently install. If it sounds like crap I have no trouble choosing another route.

    This is my solution of making use of the items I have laying around. Doing it this way will cost me nearly nothing except some time, experimentation and a decent sub/amp.

    It's apples and apples. 12v/4ohm the whole way through- no inverter.

    As far as THD and amp quality go I guarantee speaker choice and placement balanced with a matching power level will make a 5% thd system sound better than a mismatched .001% thd one.

    I'm still collecting gear right now, but I'll start a thread on this install when I get underway. I'll post a note here when I do.

    Let the flaming begin!

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