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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow
    Will, the 30A fuse is to protect in case of a dead short. If you put a .5A on it then you'll need to use a relay to power more than one piece of equipment. Otherwise you can just splice that one wire. 10 years of installation is where I get my info from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow
    Will, the 30A fuse is to protect in case of a dead short. If you put a .5A on it then you'll need to use a relay to power more than one piece of equipment. Otherwise you can just splice that one wire. 10 years of installation is where I get my info from.
    Guys, 0.5A is too small, for the reasons Shadow cited, but Shadow, 30A is too large. I sure as heck don't want > 29A of current flowing through my small gauge remote turn-on wire BEFORE the fuse blows. Why risk the wire heating that much? I realize it's a small point, but details make the difference.

    Also, it's really a good idea to get a wiring schematic/color code guide from a reputable source before connecting anything to the factory harnesses...Will has a great point...assuming all cars follow convention is a great way to short something...

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    30A fuse!?

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    Grab your aftermarket head unit and take a look at the fuse in the remote turn on lead. Maybe they upped it to an single amp in recent years, but for the longest time it was fused at half an amp. The current dra on remote leads should be milliamps.

    Shadow, I have read a lot of your posts recently. Although you have had some good advice here and there, you are showing a signinificant amount of misconceptions in the industry which leads to bad recommendations. I'd like to know what shop maintains these after 10 years. Please be careful - someone could take your statement as gospel and fry their system/car

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Albers
    Grab your aftermarket head unit and take a look at the fuse in the remote turn on lead. Maybe they upped it to an single amp in recent years, but for the longest time it was fused at half an amp. The current dra on remote leads should be milliamps.

    Shadow, I have read a lot of your posts recently. Although you have had some good advice here and there, you are showing a signinificant amount of misconceptions in the industry which leads to bad recommendations. I'd like to know what shop maintains these after 10 years. Please be careful - someone could take your statement as gospel and fry their system/car
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    Im looking through the web and seeing 1 amp fuses for remote turn on. Looks like I was wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster
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    hey now, it's comments like these that lead to a lot of problems on these boards.









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    DIRECTWIRE™ WIRING INFORMATION - PONTIAC / GRAND PRIX / 2003 / Remote Start

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    12volts red & red/white + ignition harness
    Starter yellow + ignition harness
    Second Starter N/A
    Ignition pink + ignition harness
    Second Ignition white + ignition harness
    Third Ignition N/A
    Accessory orange + ignition harness
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    Power Unlock white - driver kick, door harness
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    Parking Lights- N/A
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    Turn Signal(R)
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    Door Trigger tan & dk. blue -
    Notes: The tan is located in the driver kick and catches only the driver door. The dk. blue is located in the passenger kick and catches all other doors. Use both wires and diode isolate each.
    Dome Supervision use door trigger
    Trunk/Hatch Pin red/black - under rear deck
    Hood Pin N/A
    Trunk/Hatch Release black/white + release switch
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    Factory Alarm Disarm orange/black - driver kick, door harness
    Disarm No Unlock see factory alarm disarm
    Tachometer white ac pin 8, conn. 2 at PCM
    Notes: The PCM (Powertrain Control Module) is in the air cleaner assembly.
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    Brake Wire white + brake pedal switch
    Parking Brake
    Horn Trigger black - steering column
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    Memory Seat 2
    Memory Seat 3
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    Alternate Part1 #: 556UW
    Alternate Part2 #: DesignTech 20402
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    Man, looks like I was wrong about a GM having orange as an accessory wire. Oh wait.....

    The only reason an aftermarket radio has a 1A fuse is to protect the internal relay, not to keep the current from heating up the wire. Most accessory circuits in cars are fused at the fusebox at 40A+. A 30A would keep you from blowing this bigger, usually MAXI fuse.

    90% of the time the only reason you'd blow a fuse on the remote is because of a dead short in which case a 30A fuse would blow immediately. I've NEVER had any problems wiring things up this way.

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    then why even make any fuses less than 30 amps?

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    talking to my husband, who had been installing for close to 10 years as well, he didn't understand it either....
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