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    Audiophile advice needed!

    I own a 98 Eclipse GST, So I have 6.5" holes in the doors with tweeters in the dash pointing at the window which directs it great at the driver and passenger. The two rear speakers are 6x8's which also point towards the driver/passenger quite well. I blew a speaker in the door and so I pulled things apart and found out that I can put a damn 8" speaker/sub in the doors. not by cutting so dont think that. They have this huge hole inside the doors with a pod made out of plastic that has a cut out for the 6.5" speakers. But anyways, onto the idea's.

    what are the advantages of having kick panel pods with the components in there? Is it better then the current location. Also about the tweeters, that would give 3 locations for the tweeters, in the dash, in the Pillars which is where I heard was best for the sound stage, or kick panel pods... I've seen some people's systems setup with subs in the doors next to the components, so what I was thinking about doing is installing some 8" Subs inside the doors running off the front RCA channels, then get some kick panel pods and install the components in there, but I really think it would be best to install the tweeters inside the a pillars... maybe I could have a second pair of tweeters. Might be overkill, but I could allways turn them down. Also on the bass it might be overkill, but I dont know.

    Also, I'm buying a set of Rockford Fosgate 6x8" Components for the rear, where should I mount the tweeters? I was thinking in the rear pillars just like the front...

    I want the clearest sound possible. I'm going with all rockford fosgate power series. Amps, subs, speakers, even the 3Sixty.1 DSP to control the suround sound better. Yes, I am going to run suround sound, 5.1 DTS, well more like 10x2 lmao...

    So yeah, hit me up on here with advice on places to install speakers. Sizes and alla that good stuff.
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    Post some pics of interior?

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    Here is the Spyder interior, pretty much identical except the hatch's rear speakers are ponting towards the driver and passenger.
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    first thing I will say is to NEVER come on here and ask for people to tell you EXACTLY how to do something, much like you have done. It will irk a LOT of people.

    second thing I will tell you is that in car audio, like most things in life, more is NOT better. In fact, in most cases, more is actually worse.

    third thing I will tell you is that you REALLY need to read up more on the theories of sound quality.

    Now, onto answer some of your questions with a few questions of my own.

    You mention you want audiophile advice. Are you going to be competing with this system or are you just wanting a nice sounding system?

    I will get into the details a bit more on your ideas of subs in the doors and kicks and speaker placement after I have an answer to this question.
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    I would say get some nice componant fronts (Focal, MB Quart, Diamond Audio) some coaxial rear's (maybe some eclipse point source?) some JL w3v3's (10's or 12's) and a good amp, I would say the JL 300/4, and 500/1. Headunit makes a big difference, interconnects, etc. I personally have an Eclipse 8053, but eclipse is owned by JVC now, so they're not as good as they used to be.

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    Ok, pretty much all I did was ask for advice on these things, from people's experiences. Because I know what I'm going to do, I just dont know how far I am wanting to go with it until I figure out those things.

    and to answer that question, both. I want my perfectionist ears to be fufilled with good quality sound, and I want to be able to compete.

    And I allready know what speakers and amps I'm getting.
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    having speakers in the kicks helps to equal out the path length from the listeners ears to the speakers themselves. This helps with staging.

    There are a LOT of different theories regarding putting tweeters in the kicks v. putting them in the pillars. This is why I told you that you would need to do a bunch of research on this. Much of it has to do with the specific speakers themselves. Not every set out there works best with tweeters and mids in the kicks, not every set out there works best with tweeters in pillars and mids in the kicks. Not every set out there works best with the mids and tweeters being on axis and thus need to be mounted off axis. There is no set rule as to how to mount a set of tweeters based on dome material or dome shape.

    Like I said, more is NOT always better in Car Audio (SPL OR SQ). Just because you have a hole in the door doesn't mean it has to have a speaker in it.

    The only speakers that would work properly in a door pannel are those that would work with an aperotic membrane. Youre also going to have to worry about depth of the speaker. If you're going to be ok with rebuilding your door, then you would have to mount it on the outside of the door. Mounting an 8 inside the door pannel will leave you with a lot of vibration, etc.

    There is a LOT more I could go into, but it's not something you can just read and get in one post. You need to spend some time over on www.elitecaraudio.com and read up on staging, dynamics, etc.
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    Sounds like something else to be a newbie at.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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