What kind of cap/amp?

**Shadow** · 12-21-2006, 06:00 PM

mad power y0

**scott_fx** · 12-21-2006, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by MegaloRESE15"

ghey IMO

are there a lot of homosexual's with caps mounted like that?

**Megalomaniac** · 12-21-2006, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by scott_fx

are there a lot of homosexual's with caps mounted like that?

raging homosexuals actually

**GoHybrid** · 12-22-2006, 01:14 AM

i'm curious how many more times this debate is going to surface and when the "if you're not with us, you're against us" mentality is going to end... if ever. Some people see a benefit from caps, and it's not necessarily the same as others. Sometimes caps just don't work for people. It gets pretty old arguing the same thing over and over when nobody really "learns" anything let alone concedes any obvious points to the other. Why can't we say, "get a cap if you want. if it works for you, great. if not then don't bother with em" and leave it at that?

**stanford1621** · 12-22-2006, 09:36 PM

becuase people read wrong info and are lead to beleive they need a cap and there system will be louder.

**GoHybrid** · 12-22-2006, 11:48 PM

that's just my point though... nobody understands the actual benefits of a capacitor... and the costs... and before you say "there are no benefits" remember that this is the point I'm making. Nobody will pay any attention to the real purpose of a capacitor in a power supply. So either people say "yay, caps are great" for all the wrong reasons, or others say "caps suck, they have no purpose and everyone is just lying to you". Not suprisingly, neither of those types of people ever really bother to support their claims with evidence... and those who do provide evidence believe they are providing gospel, and can't crack their minds open just far enough to see the other side of the coin. It just gets old.

**treetop777** · 12-23-2006, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by GoHybrid

that's just my point though... nobody understands the actual benefits of a capacitor... and the costs... and before you say "there are no benefits" remember that this is the point I'm making. Nobody will pay any attention to the real purpose of a capacitor in a power supply. So either people say "yay, caps are great" for all the wrong reasons, or others say "caps suck, they have no purpose and everyone is just lying to you". Not suprisingly, neither of those types of people ever really bother to support their claims with evidence... and those who do provide evidence believe they are providing gospel, and can't crack their minds open just far enough to see the other side of the coin. It just gets old.

I'm learning a lot just by following this thread. I would imagine at some point people get set in their ways..for example: way back when i was really into car stereo, the rule was..if your lights flicker when the stereo hit a bass note..get a cap! This was coming from reading reputable magazines like "car stereo review" and others. I don't remember EVER anything mentioned about the "Big-3" ..never, until now. So based on that, i never bothered to look any further..that was the rule!

Before reading this thread, if my son had complained to me that the stereo he just installed in his car made his lights dim, i would have told him son, get a cap! Today i would tell him son, get a cap! AFTER you upgrade the big 3 cables.

It's only recently, through forums like this one, we are able to revisit and learn new/better rules of doing things.

I've learned a lot, thank you.

I'm still going to get one (or 10+) but for a different reason, not because i thing i need it (now i know better), but because i feel like it!

So there!

**Megalomaniac** · 12-23-2006, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by GoHybrid

that's just my point though... nobody understands the actual benefits of a capacitor... and the costs... and before you say "there are no benefits" remember that this is the point I'm making. Nobody will pay any attention to the real purpose of a capacitor in a power supply. So either people say "yay, caps are great" for all the wrong reasons, or others say "caps suck, they have no purpose and everyone is just lying to you". Not suprisingly, neither of those types of people ever really bother to support their claims with evidence... and those who do provide evidence believe they are providing gospel, and can't crack their minds open just far enough to see the other side of the coin. It just gets old.

in the car audio portion caps(between the power wires) are not necessary, i realize there are caps inside of an amp, but i was stating that an "external" cap is not necessary. What they need a is more power. A cap might help curve the graph results better but nothing noticably to say "MORE BASS NOW". A cap is at the bottom of the list for me.

**GoHybrid** · 12-23-2006, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by MegaloRESE15"

in the car audio portion caps(between the power wires) are not necessary, i realize there are caps inside of an amp, but i was stating that an "external" cap is not necessary. What they need a is more power. A cap might help curve the graph results better but nothing noticably to say "MORE BASS NOW". A cap is at the bottom of the list for me.

see, even that response would tell someone more about the nature of a capacitor than people flatly saying "BAND-AID!" or "capacitors are worthless. period". I just wish more people would put some thought into a response like that rather than shaft someone who is just trying to learn something by giving them the knee-jerk answers they tend to get about the subject.

On the topic itself... it's hard to say whether a capacitor would benefit someone's system without seeing the whole picture. A cap between the power lines is not solely to juice the amp. I've said it before, but think about ALL those electrical components that have a very high and very SHORT surge at turn-on. Headlights, foglights, brake lights, defrosters, turn signals, cooling fans, starter motor... caps act as a cushion for those things too.

The best shocks in the world won't save you if your car falls off a cliff, but if you