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    Quote Originally Posted by SapporoGuy View Post
    Engaging your mind outside of task at hand (driving) is dangerous, be it thinking about an arguement, the skirt on the corner, your job or even day
    dreaming are all dangerous.

    The question the is if is not just as dangerous as tinkering with some thing that is different than the steering wheel?

    Is there going to be movent to start working on an interface that can portable to the different FEs? We could even brand it as a mp3car design!
    When my afkfest presentation gets uploaded I think you'll get some great ideas for a good interface device...but until then lets just say I know of a front end that recently got haptic feedback support. I think thats going to be the future when it comes to minimizing driver distraction (at least from an HMI perspective). It really doesn't get much better then being able to "feel" your way around a UI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justchat_1 View Post
    3 weeks and it will be available for PC - just not cf, so not an option zx1 would even consider
    Of course I would consider it. CF embeds a lot of programs pretty well, and plus we have a lot of talented plugin creators, lol.
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    Should we also ban laptops open on the passenger side playing porn?

    AUGUST 25--A Cincinnati woman was simultaneously masturbating with a sex toy and watching a pornographic video while driving last week, according to cops who arrested her on assorted criminal charges.

    Colondra Hamilton, 36, was pulled over last Tuesday evening in a traffic stop triggered when cops noticed she was driving a 2008 Pontiac with overly tinted windows.

    Thatís when officers noticed that Hamiltonís pants were unbuttoned. And she had a vibrator in her lap. Questioned by cops, Hamilton admitted to engaging in auto erotic manipulation, and revealed that she had also been watching a porno movie that was playing on the laptop of a friend in the passenger seat, according to an Elmwood Place Police Department report.
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    Yes, no more laptops on passenger seat. Or laptops mounted on RAM mounts. While you're at it, dear legislator, what abount a law against using vibrators while driving? Hey, at least she was not (oh, horror) texting.

    As I said, there's no limit on idiocy. People can get distracted in a number of ways. "Impaired alerness" while driving should be suficient to charge such idiots, when they behave like idiots, no?

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    The machine is only as dangerous as the operator. Some people cannot even pull out of the garage without taking off a mirror and running into a parked car. Some people can fly F-18's while simultaneously using a radar missile tracking system. It all depends on the human. My solution is less laws, as laws are maybe 50% effective, but rather active training and testing to receive a drivers license. I also believe there should be 3 "classes" of drivers license, from a full, unrestricted license allowing the driver to use higher speeds and more electronics, to lower licenses that don't allow usage of any electronics, no highway use, no driving at night, etc. To let everyone loose with mixed abilities and little to no differences in what they are allowed to do by law is a dangerous mix.
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    ^^^^ couldn't agree more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blk02si View Post
    The machine is only as dangerous as the operator. Some people cannot even pull out of the garage without taking off a mirror and running into a parked car. Some people can fly F-18's while simultaneously using a radar missile tracking system. It all depends on the human. My solution is less laws, as laws are maybe 50% effective, but rather active training and testing to receive a drivers license. I also believe there should be 3 "classes" of drivers license, from a full, unrestricted license allowing the driver to use higher speeds and more electronics, to lower licenses that don't allow usage of any electronics, no highway use, no driving at night, etc. To let everyone loose with mixed abilities and little to no differences in what they are allowed to do by law is a dangerous mix.
    Absolutely.

    The problem is training & testing...or lack thereof.

    You can get a driver's license in one state, and you can legally drive in ANY state. In WV, where I got my license, the driving test consisted of pulling out of the parking lot, driving around the block (literally 6 right-turns), coming back into the parking lot, and parallel parking between a couple of traffic cones. That's the WHOLE test. I can now legally drive THIS (see below) in all 50 states, no special endorsements required.






    My mother, who...God bless her...gets flustered by the windshield wiper controls, can ALSO legally drive that behemoth.

    You can also take a test in an easy-to-drive automatic, and then drive a manual transmission vehicle, which takes a different set of skills (skills that not everyone possess).

    And it doesn't even have to be about state-of-the-art high tech gadgets in the car.

    How many of us have had this conversation in our head...

    "Come on...just take the CD"
    "Wait"
    "Oh...what the? What the heck is 'Error 04'?"
    "Fine. I'll eject it and try again"
    "Come on...you read this CD just fine yesterday!"

    When this is going on, are we 100% focused on the task of driving defensively?
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    I believe there should be a simulator test in addition to the regular driving exam. You would simulate how the driver would behave in the wet, at highway speeds, at illegal speeds, how they would react to a real dangerous situation (being cut off, or unexpeced pedestriam or cyclist, answering questions over a phone call while the simulation runs, etc.) and they would get their license according to their ability. This test would be very purposedly stressful and optional. If you want to drive 55 and always drive a sub 100HP car, you wouldn't need to do it.

    If you want to drive a 500HP car or a 3+ ton truck, they you'd need to have the highest ability/notes.



    Something like this:




    Now just imagine the scene above with a deer suddenly jumping in front of the car at 60mph with incoming traffic on the other lane. Some drivers will just slam the brakes, other won't even notice, other will turn into the concrete wall, others will hit the incoming traffic (major FAIL), etc. Now you can add motorcycles and cyclists on the right lane, then add some rain and you'll get the picture...If you add road noises, loud tire squealing and horrific crashing sounds to the mix and etc. to make it as real world as possible I suspect many will give up driving altogether!! I'd say that's the idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blk02si View Post
    The machine is only as dangerous as the operator. Some people cannot even pull out of the garage without taking off a mirror and running into a parked car. Some people can fly F-18's while simultaneously using a radar missile tracking system. It all depends on the human. My solution is less laws, as laws are maybe 50% effective, but rather active training and testing to receive a drivers license. I also believe there should be 3 "classes" of drivers license, from a full, unrestricted license allowing the driver to use higher speeds and more electronics, to lower licenses that don't allow usage of any electronics, no highway use, no driving at night, etc. To let everyone loose with mixed abilities and little to no differences in what they are allowed to do by law is a dangerous mix.

    Be a nightmare trying to enforce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blk02si View Post
    The machine is only as dangerous as the operator. Some people cannot even pull out of the garage without taking off a mirror and running into a parked car. Some people can fly F-18's while simultaneously using a radar missile tracking system. It all depends on the human. My solution is less laws, as laws are maybe 50% effective, but rather active training and testing to receive a drivers license. I also believe there should be 3 "classes" of drivers license, from a full, unrestricted license allowing the driver to use higher speeds and more electronics, to lower licenses that don't allow usage of any electronics, no highway use, no driving at night, etc. To let everyone loose with mixed abilities and little to no differences in what they are allowed to do by law is a dangerous mix.
    Quote Originally Posted by Enforcer View Post
    Be a nightmare trying to enforce.
    a very good reason.. i guess they could help enforce this by requiring color-coded license plates, granted plates are easily swapped, or in Habious's case, maybe his mother needs to take his higher-classed car to the airport to meet him..

    though i do agree that it would be nice to have multiple levels of vehicle usage, and a large part of the problems with the current state of drivers ed is that it lacks sufficient training when it comes to distractions, and defensive driving.. even sometimes driving in general..

    my family laughs at me for coming up with this, but, i have devised what i feel is a very tough course:

    using a large vehicle like a panel van/suburban/excursion, participants must backup around a 500 ft narrow S-curve, parallel park, and then change a tire, all within a hour...

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    I am also a firm, FIRM believer that many of the traffic accidents, along with the miserable fuel mileage we get, is because of how our roads are designed and operate. Imagine a road system where, once you started your trip, one could continue on without fully stopping. If I had to build a infrastructure from scratch any and all intersections would be mandatory round-a-bouts, or cloverleafs. Traffic signals and stop signs would be banned. I truly believe the design of the road system is more at fault for many of the items blamed on "apps"
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