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    CF 1.6 First impressions

    Rtaher than post something like 'It rocks', or 'it sucks', I thought I'd put together a few things I've noticed...

    THE GOOD:
    -A very complete package. Lots of goodies included out of the box: OBDII, XM, Phone, Pictures, Media, Navi, and more.
    -Visualization/Screensaver galore.

    THE BAD:
    -Single click is gone.
    -Can't easily switch between GPS full screen, and Media. With 1.5 I could switch between these two modes with ONE CLICK. Wow, what a concept. ONE CLICK. It takes 3 clicks now. One to disable fullscreen, one to click menu, and a third to click Media.
    -Provided license for 1.6 is not accepted. Let the CF License problems begin
    -Feels slower than 1.5. Lots of screen refreshes are noticeable when going from one mode to another.

    THE UGLY:
    -Interface MAZE! OMG, it's so easy to get lost in this thing. And it takes numerous clicks to go from A to B. Same tasks that took 1-2 clicks on 1.5 are taking 3-4 clicks or more. It got frustrating after only 2 minutes, and can't possibly use something like this, especially in a car when moving at 60+ mph. I'm not entirely convinced this can be fixed with a new skin -- seems more a problem of the underlying app structure and flow.
    -Skin is mostly black and white. Could have saved a few $$$ and gotten a B&W screen.


    All in all, a nice attempt, with lots of new features. But usability has gone the way of the do-do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by justintime
    Rtaher than post something like 'It rocks', or 'it sucks', I thought I'd put together a few things I've noticed...

    THE GOOD:
    -A very complete package. Lots of goodies included out of the box: OBDII, XM, Phone, Pictures, Media, Navi, and more.
    -Visualization/Screensaver galore.
    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by justintime
    THE BAD:
    -Single click is gone.
    -Can't easily switch between GPS full screen, and Media. With 1.5 I could switch between these two modes with ONE CLICK. Wow, what a concept. ONE CLICK. It takes 3 clicks now. One to disable fullscreen, one to click menu, and a third to click Media.
    -Provided license for 1.6 is not accepted. Let the CF License problems begin
    -Feels slower than 1.5. Lots of screen refreshes are noticeable when going from one mode to another.
    - single click i did not use never had the need for it :P
    - license worked here perfect
    - still have to install it on my epia on the desktop runs fine very fast.


    Quote Originally Posted by justintime
    THE UGLY:
    -Interface MAZE! OMG, it's so wasy to get lost in this thing. And it takes numerous clicks to go from A to B. Same tasks that took 1-2 clicks on 1.5 are taking 3-4 clicks or more. It got frustrating after only 2 minutes, and can't possibly use something like this, especially in a car when moving at 60+ mph. I'm not entirely convinced this can be fixed with a new skin -- seems more a problem of the underlying app structure and flow.
    -Skin is mostly black and white. Could have saved a few $$$ and gotten a B&W screen.


    All in all, a nice attempt, with lots of new features. But usability has gone the way of the do-do!
    - the interface is the same? only new thing is the menu bar. rest is pretty much the same just put you're most used apps in the menu bar, don't tell me you switch between obdII, Media, Tv, camera al the time. maybe for testing now but not in actual use.
    - agreed the skin is not very nice and the buttons for play/stop/close look a lot like media engine. i was using the orange skin before and liked it.

    will post my actual incar impressions soon

    edit:
    as promised some incar experience:

    as for the skin i like it for in the car. its very clear! and the buttons not hard to use same as in other versions.

    the media library is a bit different but i got used to it very fast.

    the nav is also clear only the GPS settings is not skinned yet looks really outta place. other than that not much to complain
    my destinator map resource down permanently

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    Like GReeToZ said, the interface is pretty much the same except for the drop down menu. It really shouldn't add but one click to anything. I'm still not sure I like it though. I do like the rest of the skin but I think I'm gonna go ahead get started on a brushed aluminum version cause this one aint gonna work for me during the day, too much black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OoNikFraleyoO
    Like GReeToZ said, the interface is pretty much the same except for the drop down menu. It really shouldn't add but one click to anything. I'm still not sure I like it though. I do like the rest of the skin but I think I'm gonna go ahead get started on a brushed aluminum version cause this one aint gonna work for me during the day, too much black.
    We are working on a day skin as well as 4:3 version for both...

    You can also use the X in the bottom right corner to quickly get back to the main menu...

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    I think I have come to the conclusion that the drop-down menu is really not the greatest idea.

    Furthermore, I remember when some people where defending this concept, way back when David released 1.6 screenshots, and the one Possitive aspect of it was that it would make more room for the lists etc.

    Well, as far as I can tell (Look at the media screen), the left hand side now has a bunch of icons instead of the 1.5 'fixed' menu. So, the screen real estate for song lists etc remains the same.

    Point of having the the drop-down menu? I have no clue, except for the fact that it requires 2 clicks (and possible 2 glances at the screen while driving).
    I don't think I will ever get used to the fact that CF now requires so much attention and clicks to get from one place to another. It really is CF's pitfall, whish is very sad because this was a great feature in 1.5 and earlier. (Fixed menu on every screen).

    Sorry, not trying to bash David's efforts. I give usability #1 priority over everything else when it comes to a CarPC interface, but I know this is not everyone's priority. I would rather have less clicks to make, than have all the bells and whistles.

    I can't say this is not a little depressing!!!
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    @ Justintime: If you feel this way about it just leave it & use RR or Frodo or whatever.

    I think this frontend is awesome. I have no disrespect for the people who have put work into the other frontends, but this has moved things a step further. It is integrated, stable, very professional in appearance....
    This is the first instance of a front end that i would actually pay money for ( i suspect that is somewhere in the pipeline for CF, and i would)

    Very well done CF team!

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    Quote Originally Posted by justintime
    I think I have come to the conclusion that the drop-down menu is really not the greatest idea.

    I can't say this is not a little depressing!!!

    A skin CAN fix this I think.

    David? Is it possible to have each (menu-)button on each screen?

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    HoSS: I will use whatever FrontEnd I wish, as you have suggested.

    That won't keep me from giving CONSTRUCTIVE feeback to David, so I hope you don't mind. If you don't like my posts however, you are free to close your eyes, or look elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC-S60
    A skin CAN fix this I think.

    David? Is it possible to have each (menu-)button on each screen?
    Oh, I want to know this too! That would be a light of hope
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    my guess is that although there is support for a drop down menu, a skinner could take this or leave it, I'm sure skins can be built without having to use a drop down menu.....

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