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    Quote Originally Posted by Arathranar
    Why wouldn't your friend look at the intersection he's at and send it's address? Seems a lot more mainstream than them needing a GPS at hand.
    it is possible also but what if he in some place that is not on the map at all ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by bishooman
    one more thing it is not nessary that other side have CF also it only needs any GPS softwhere and find his curent longitude and latitude and sent this manualy by sms like CF_Location longitude, latitude

    Oh, I see, he has a GPS unit with him, which he then queries for Lat and Lon, then inputs that into the SMS, which is automatically then put into the location for you to NAv to.

    That really makes little sense. First of all, how often do you have a location that you can't find in your Navi program? If that happens often, I suggest a different Nav program that covers your area. Next, if he has a GPS and can give you the Lat and Lon, then maybe you should just manually put that into your program after converting them with this (http://franson.com/coordtrans/index.asp?ref=google) or some other program. No need to do it automatically, and also, it seems like an extra step that is not needed, and also, there is room for human error (your mate has to put the co-ordinates in correctly and perfectly, and we all now, putting that info into an SMS will take lots of time) when you can pull out your keyboard and enter them very quickly while he talks to you on the phone.

    Doesn't seem worth the time to make, andthe uses are VERY limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiredwrx
    No need to do it automatically, and also, it seems like an extra step that is not needed, and also, there is room for human error (your mate has to put the co-ordinates in correctly and perfectly, and we all now, putting that info into an SMS will take lots of time) when you can pull out your keyboard and enter them very quickly while he talks to you on the phone.

    Doesn't seem worth the time to make, andthe uses are VERY limited.

    Michael
    Isnt that room for human error just the reason to do it automaticly... basicly in phone end it would be just a program which would query gps device and automaticly with 1 button click send queried data to nav software plugin via sms, which would do address translation and routing.

    And it makes sense... when u have to go pick up ur drunken kids...

    EDIT: jesus, dude, in what century u live at... if u r thinking writing coords sms manually

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    Quote Originally Posted by P3rv3rt B3ar
    Isnt that room for human error just the reason to do it automaticly... basicly in phone end it would be just a program which would query gps device and automaticly with 1 button click send queried data to nav software plugin via sms, which would do address translation and routing.

    And it makes sense... when u have to go pick up ur drunken kids...

    EDIT: jesus, dude, in what century u live at... if u r thinking writing coords sms manually
    The problem is getting the Coordinates into the Phone. Plain and simple. THe guy has to have a gps, connected to the phone, and then, someone has to write some program to grab the coordinates and SMS them automatically. Then, someone/same person has to write a program that will read the sms, and automatically input the co ordinates into a program/write a program that can convert them to an address, and then get that into the address field of the Navi program. Which, I might add, does nothing if the Navi program doesn't have the cross streets or address, which is one of the things that the OP stated.

    Now, can it be done, I bet it can. Is it worth it, I doubt it. Too much programing, the "drunk" person must walk around with a gps and cell phone connected somehow, and then be undrunk enough to execute the program to send the SMS.

    There is just so little need, and too much involved to get it done. Not that it CAN'T be done, just that there is little reason to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiredwrx
    The problem is getting the Coordinates into the Phone. Plain and simple. THe guy has to have a gps, connected to the phone, and then, someone has to write some program to grab the coordinates and SMS them automatically. Then, someone/same person has to write a program that will read the sms, and automatically input the co ordinates into a program/write a program that can convert them to an address, and then get that into the address field of the Navi program. Which, I might add, does nothing if the Navi program doesn't have the cross streets or address, which is one of the things that the OP stated.

    Now, can it be done, I bet it can. Is it worth it, I doubt it. Too much programing, the "drunk" person must walk around with a gps and cell phone connected somehow, and then be undrunk enough to execute the program to send the SMS.

    There is just so little need, and too much involved to get it done. Not that it CAN'T be done, just that there is little reason to do it.

    Michael
    Im pretty sure phone part is already existing for personel security applications... so it would leave only nav-soft plugin to be implemented for our "drunk-cab" car-pc enthuasist...

    And in case he would have to implement phone part too... he can sell it with good price (especially if integrated with bluetooth hearth rate reader) for securing up traveling business men and employees of big companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiredwrx
    The problem is getting the Coordinates into the Phone. Plain and simple. THe guy has to have a gps, connected to the phone, and then, someone has to write some program to grab the coordinates and SMS them automatically. Then, someone/same person has to write a program that will read the sms, and automatically input the co ordinates into a program/write a program that can convert them to an address, and then get that into the address field of the Navi program. Which, I might add, does nothing if the Navi program doesn't have the cross streets or address, which is one of the things that the OP stated.

    Now, can it be done, I bet it can. Is it worth it, I doubt it. Too much programing, the "drunk" person must walk around with a gps and cell phone connected somehow, and then be undrunk enough to execute the program to send the SMS.

    There is just so little need, and too much involved to get it done. Not that it CAN'T be done, just that there is little reason to do it.

    Michael
    i dont know why do you think it is complicated in coding i can implemnt somethign like with 20 raws of code only !!!
    let me explain
    1-new button in NAV plugin has the text Send Location
    will do the flowing open the send sms in phonecontrol, and fill it with CF_Location longitude, latitude then you pick one of your contacts to send SMS to
    2-a simplie "IF statment" in PhoneControl that check the first text in any incomming SMS if "CF_Location" found will popup "new location recevied" form, if you click ok PhoneControl will set the longitude, latitude in Destinator and hit Navigate
    thats all
    it could be done with 20 to 30 rows of code and it is not complicated at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bishooman
    i dont know why do you think it is complicated in coding i can implemnt somethign like with 20 raws of code only !!!
    let me explain
    1-new button in NAV plugin has the text Send Location
    will do the flowing open the send sms in phonecontrol, and fill it with CF_Location longitude, latitude then you pick one of your contacts to send SMS to
    2-a simplie "IF statment" in PhoneControl that check the first text in any incomming SMS if "CF_Location" found will popup new location recevied if you click ok PhoneControl will set the longitude, latitude in Destinator and hit Navigate
    thats all
    it could be done with 20 to 30 rows of code and it is not complicated at all.

    Well, perhaps you have the knowledge to write code, that is all well and good. But you are missing soooo many steps. First, you have to get the Lat and Lon into the SMS. Where does that come from. It is probably not native in the cell phone. unless you are talking about getting the information from one caputer to another. That shouldn't be so hard. However, if there is no carputer at the other end, like the guy is standing somewhere, getting the GPS info will be more difficult then you think.

    Next, once you get the Lat and Long into the SMS and out to the recipient, all he now has is Lat and Lon. Your GPS program can't do anything with it. Can you just type in a Lat and Lon into your Navi program and start navigating. i don't think so. So, you would have to convert the lat and lon into some sort of location. Well, you need a program for that. Then, once you have the location (non lat and lon) you have to have that location in your Navi program. Since you said that the location can't be found if your buddy says, I am at the corner of so and so and whatchamecallit, what good will the location be since it is just converted from Lat and Lon.

    So, to sum it up for you, you can;t enter lat and lon into your Navi program and expect to get there, and if you can't find it when you buddy says "I am here" what good would converting the lat and lon to a location do for you, and how will you get the GPS coordinates to put them into an SMS?

    Michael

    K, I did some research, and there is a program that will convert the Lat and Lon to a location, and automatically enter it into Destinator. You can see it here http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/bar...osgps_main.htm

    However, like said before, if the location isn't in Destinator, then you can't get to it, so whether your buddy gives you a location that can't be found, or his GPS gives you a location that can't be found, you can't Navigate to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiredwrx
    Well, perhaps you have the knowledge to write code, that is all well and good. But you are missing soooo many steps. First, you have to get the Lat and Lon into the SMS. Where does that come from. It is probably not native in the cell phone. unless you are talking about getting the information from one caputer to another. That shouldn't be so hard. However, if there is no carputer at the other end, like the guy is standing somewhere, getting the GPS info will be more difficult then you think.

    Next, once you get the Lat and Long into the SMS and out to the recipient, all he now has is Lat and Lon. Your GPS program can't do anything with it. Can you just type in a Lat and Lon into your Navi program and start navigating. i don't think so. So, you would have to convert the lat and lon into some sort of location. Well, you need a program for that. Then, once you have the location (non lat and lon) you have to have that location in your Navi program. Since you said that the location can't be found if your buddy says, I am at the corner of so and so and whatchamecallit, what good will the location be since it is just converted from Lat and Lon.

    So, to sum it up for you, you can;t enter lat and lon into your Navi program and expect to get there, and if you can't find it when you buddy says "I am here" what good would converting the lat and lon to a location do for you, and how will you get the GPS coordinates to put them into an SMS?

    Michael
    yes both end should have carouter
    yes you can navigate by Lat and Long when i save any location on the map to favorits it is writtin like that
    HOME, Lat, Long
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    Quote Originally Posted by bishooman
    yes both end should have carouter
    yes you can navigate by Lat and Long when i save any location on the map to favorits it is writtin like that
    HOME, Lat, Long

    Well, then code away, it is only 20 lines

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    i cant i dont have CF nor Destinator nor PhoneControl source code
    this something David should do if he like the idea
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