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    Quote Originally Posted by god_of_cpu
    Its not a bluetooth dongle. I wish we could deliver the experience that parrot does with just an ordinary bluetooth dongle. The parrot based device we are developing is a hands free phone kit that can communicate with your computer. The computer doesn't know about bluetooth, nor can you use it to communicate with any other bluetooth devices besides phones. It won't install any bluetooth drivers on your computer and it can establish and maintain the connection with your phone irregardless of whether your computer is on or not.
    Exactly! It is a bunch of hardware that is basically a slow computer with a bluetooth dongle. I'm all for hardware solutions for reliability. But thats a hefty chunk of change for a PCB you have to wire up yourself. Connecting it to a PC is cool, but how does that work and are there any limitations? Anyway, is seems like a fairly simple thing for a PC to do on its own...

    Quote Originally Posted by god_of_cpu
    In fact, it supports more bluetooth phone profiles then any other product.
    Some one should get one of those, a lot of phones, and a BT "sniffer". Then they can reverse-engineer it and just write a good PC app that does the same thing using a BT dongle.

    EDIT: Really it's a shame if all phone protocols are not published. BT is a standard that should cover all possible data exchange right? BT was designed to make all devices inter-operable. Unpublished proprietary protocols killed "the dream" of BT.

    EDIT2: I don't even have a BT phone. I wish people had to publish their USB protocols too .

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPM_VR4

    Some one should get one of those, a lot of phones, and a BT "sniffer". Then they can reverse-engineer it and just write a good PC app that does the same thing using a BT dongle.

    EDIT2: I don't even have a BT phone. I wish people had to publish their USB protocols too .
    Ive done some classes about wireless security... including bluetooth... but cant remember **** anymore... however with common logic i would say that sniffing of that usb cable is probably more fruitful than sniffing bt... cables by nature are considered atleast somewhat more trusted than airways... so changes are that data would actually be plain in cable... Bluetooth on otherhand is probably encrypted as a norm. Not even considering possible application protocol level encryption...

    EDIT: im not saying it cant be done... if i remember something from those classes... is that all common wireless technologies are rather weak... but its probably not a walk in park either...

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    Your probably right. Encryption should be illegal

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    Quote Originally Posted by god_of_cpu
    The CK5000 uses a proprietary protocol for communication. This protocol is Parrot IP and not generally available to the public and not ours to make public. You will have to use StreetDeck or the StreetDeck SDK to communicate with the the device.
    Any way to make a DLL that basically forwards commands to the Parrot IP so it would be useable in other frontends?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPM_VR4
    I still don't get it too. My phone doesn't work at all with PhoneCo, but I still fail to see what this hardware does. Furthermore, I definatly believe that whatever it does, you can do the same thing with the proper software and a BT dongle (NOT PhoneCo).
    I amin the sema case,

    I have a NOKIA 6680 an da TRUST BT180 dongle.

    When connecting o the phone with Phoco, I have the "Blue screen" and PC reboot.

    I think I will change my dongle, because of incmpatibility of hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiredwrx
    He MOST LIKELY uses the parrot over BT for audio and probably to control it somewhat, like to initiate and end a call, then he uses a cable connection and PhoCo to accept SMS and send SMS and the like .
    Close.. with Zorro and a bit of playing around I got PC working so that I could use the phone or PC ( or even the Parrot ) to dial out.... I did this using a cable on my T610 and BT on my Vario ( Kjam to you lot ). I have always wanted to control my phone rather than use PC as I at the time removed my head units front each night and some times didnt bother puting it back. Due to been really safty oriantated I wanted my hands free kit at any time.

    The Parrot kit can either emulate headset or handsfree profiles and is firmware upgradeable which I guess the CK5000 will be too.

    @GoCPU - Could they not add the GPS option on as well to your unit ?

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    PhoCo definitely doesn't work with ALL GSM phones, I can vouch for it's inability to reliably work with a Treo 650. I had to purchase a Parrot unit (3200) to get reliable bluetooth in the car, although I'd much prefer to have it run through the CarPC (the 3200 does not do this).

    I'm not sure yet if I'd buy StreetDeck, but either way I'd certainly buy a CK5000 based device that had open APIs to work with anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0l33l
    Any way to make a DLL that basically forwards commands to the Parrot IP so it would be useable in other frontends?
    I hate to be a naysayer, but for some reason I doubt that's in the best interest of Streetdeck.

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    Wrong,the Ck5000 is the design and property of Parrot not Streetdeck nor Mp3Car,this means any 1 can have the sample boards,as long as said person has the resourses to build it into a pc component,this unit is already supplied to several top brand in-car audio company's.

    IMHO it will be a very big mistake by Mp3Car and SD if they decide not to sell this device to the wider CarPc market once developed.

    Even if sales of streetdeck go through the roof,the number of SD users will never equal The amount of CarPc users who don't have SD,by any measure this is a massive market for such a device and we're to believe it will remain un-tapped?,

    So in fact it's more like this: mp3car = streetdeck = NOT selling for other frontends = less $$

    This does not make for good bussiness sense,any1 can see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griff1
    Wrong,the Ck5000 is the design and property of Parrot not Streetdeck nor Mp3Car,this means any 1 can have the sample boards,as long as said person has the resourses to build it into a pc component,this unit is already supplied to several top brand in-car audio company's.

    IMHO it will be a very big mistake by Mp3Car and SD if they decide not to sell this device to the wider CarPc market once developed.

    Even if sales of streetdeck go through the roof,the number of SD users will never equal The amount of CarPc users who don't have SD,by any measure this is a massive market for such a device and we're to believe it will remain un-tapped?,

    So in fact it's more like this: mp3car = streetdeck = NOT selling for other frontends = less $$

    This does not make for good bussiness sense,any1 can see that.
    You are right, they will sell more if they sell to the carputer community at large. The issue though, is getting the SDK. There seems to be some sort of agreement between MP3car and Parrott regarding this particular model. Also, GOD (boy I like when I quote him like this) stated

    "Parrot is not and probably will not be making a device that can be hooked up directly to your computer, but they are supporting us to help us make one that can. You should not contact parrot asking how to hook to the CK5000 up to your computer, its not meant for that, its meant to be used in a device that can be embedded in something a consumer can use."

    While it is true that GOD might be trying to keep it for himself, but perhaps that is the truth, they have no intention of selling a computer version.

    He also said

    "The CK5000 uses a proprietary protocol for communication. This protocol is Parrot IP and not generally available to the public and not ours to make public. You will have to use StreetDeck or the StreetDeck SDK to communicate with the the device."

    While you THINK you might be able to get the Parrott "SDK", people on this board have attempted to obtain SDK's before with out success. Usually companies charge gobs fo money for it, and I suspect that Parrott probably does also. in addition, from GODs post, it seems like MP3Car was instrumental in developing the computer "SDK", which would mean that MP3car owns that part of the SW, and like they said, they would rather make you buy thier software for the privilage of the buying the Hardware also, or at least paying them for the SDK.

    This is just how the companies have decided to operate. If you by chance get the SDK, let us know, I am sure that there are probably enough people willing to help purchase it. We'll see what happens, but I am not hopefull.

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