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    Audio problems when making a phone call

    Hi everyone,

    This is my first carputer so be gentle with me please.

    I have Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit and Centrafuse 3 installed. My mobile phone has been properly paired within Centrafuse settings and is sort of working, but with an audio delay. When I try to make a call on my mobile phone the music mutes as it should. The problem is that I don't hear the dial tone, nor the tones as the numbers are dialed, nor the sound of it ringing. Nor does the little window with the green and red handset symbols appear straight away. If the person I am calling picks up their phone quickly I don't hear them either so I don't say anything which results in them hanging up. If I call my home phone the answer machine is set to let the phone ring about 10 times before it answers. In my car I only hear about two rings, not 10, before the greating message and I can record a message. So there is a delay of about 8 rings before the audio kicks in, not a situation I can tolerate.

    There is another problem that has just started too. When I start my car, and the carputer resumes from Hibernate, CF will start up again but I get about 10 error messages pop up saying something about a "Destinator dll file not found" and others saying something about "Multiple instances". So I close all of these and sometimes CF will behave as if it is working untill I press the "Nav" button and try to use Destinator 9. At this point the system freezes and I have to reboot. Other times after closing all the error messages CF will shut down and I'm sent to the desktop but without the taskbar so I have to reboot the system. I try to start CF after the reboot and get one of the above things happen each time.

    I need to have a reliable system in my car as I am a professional driver, no not a taxi or limo driver, who spends all day on the road. My ambition for my carputer was to have everything I use all in one unit, not have multiple devices such as bluetooth hands free phone, GPS unit, MP3 player, you get the idea. If I can't get both of these issues sorted out then I will scrap the carputer and use whatever parts I can in my desktop PC's

    So if anyone out there can help me with these issues please reply with anything you think is useful. The life of my carputer may depend on your help.

    Thanks, Neil

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    Hey Berber, good to see your working on the puter!

    I would suggest you repost this over at centrafuse.com here: http://forums.fluxmedia.net/general-...use-questions/

    I think you will get more responses as they are CF dedicated forums.

    I'm not sure what all is going on with your system but here's what I do know;

    There have been major issues with BT phone performance. I know mine does not work due to similar issues you are having. I am waiting for 3.5 to come out shortly and see it that fixes it. If not I will go on to plan B.

    Regarding the Hiberation issues, I have not been using hibernation but I read somewhere on CF that a lot of the Hib. issues have to due with the USB devices not powering up quick enough to satisfy windows. I believe I read recently about a software solution for this to delay windows from looking for the devices too fast.

    So have look over there and see what you can find!
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    Hey PhilG, hows it going?

    Thanks for the advice mate. This has been by far the most frustrating computer project I have undertaken so far. I have built a number of desktop systems, all sucessful with a minimun of frustration. Right now I have five desktop systems, an old P3 PCI graphics based system, one P4 AGP graphics based system, one P4 PCIE graphics based system, one Core i3 530 based system as a HTPC and my main Core i7 930 gaming system with high specs for everything, kicks butt. With a couple of other systems from the past that I stripped for parts or gave away. So you can see I'm no newbie when it comes to building computers and installing operating systems and other software. I actually had everything up and running on my P4 AGP based system to try out the various front ends and USB devices before I even got the parts to build my carputer and everything still works on that system, strange hey.

    Cheers, Berber

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    It sounds like a lot of your issues are not hardware based though. It sounds like you are having similar issues to many others centred around CF. If you can; hang tight until 3.5 is released in the next few...uh.. who knows- likely days or weeks at the most (not months though!) and see if that cures whats broken. If not then make a decision where to go with it from there. I did talk to a guy in a booth at the Auto Show in Toronto this passed weekend and he claims to have an interface available my april-may that will allow a Parrot BT device to integrate with CF. I have a Parrot I am currently using due to CF's poor performance and it is PERFECT. So if this is the case, problems for the phone may be resolved once & for all. (assuming you are willing to shell out $$ for the Parrot BT unit)
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    Hi everyone,

    Ok, so I take the carputer out of the car and set it up on my desk, hook it up to a CRT monitor, keyboard and mouse, external USB DVD drive, speakers, mic and power it with a desktop PSU.
    I decide to make a clean start so I format the SSD, reinstall Win 7, mobo drivers, USB wireless network adapter drivers, and reinstall Destinator 9 and Centrafuse 3. So far so good, Centrafuse starts up and I go through the initial setup. I pair my phone and everything looks good. I click on the "Nav" button and Destinator shows up no problem. So I decide to see what happens when I shut the carputer down and reboot it. So the carputer reboots, I wait for everything to settle down and go to start up Centrafuse. Centrafuse goes through its start up routine, I click and the "Agree" button, the home screen loads up and then.....a bunch of error messages start popping up and its SNAFU!!!

    Thats it, the carputer project is scrapped and I will be stripping parts to use in my desktop PCs and selling what is left. I wish I had spent my money on an up to date head unit that can bluetooth with my phone and can connect with my Ipod. That way I will have something that actually works and the only seperate item would be my Garmin Zumo 550 GPS unit. The head unit I was looking at before I stupidly decided to build a carputer was the Parrot RKi8400. It would have cost me a couple of hundred bucks less than I have wasted on this useless carputer.

    Cheers, Berber

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    Berber,
    Well. I'm very sorry to hear you are going that route but this hobby certainly is not for everyone. If the only pleasure for you is using the end result and not the journey getting there then you are making the right decision before inventing any more time or money. Mine was on my desk for several months until I was relatively happy with it's performance before I pulled and sold my old head unit. I had an Alpine W205 with NAV etc and honestly I would never go back BUT I enjoy spending time on this and I am not in a hurry as you can tell from my worklog LOL. Not everyone is the same though, I completely get that.

    If you don't need the parts badly elsewhere and if you think yo would enjoy "the game"; sounds like your buying a headunit anyways to put in the car, consider hanging onto the stuff, get happy with your car & a head unit then maybe go back to it in your spare time and kep bench testing it until it's right. Just a thought but if your not enjoying the process, just dump it.
    If you change your mind and want to take your time, work through the bugs, I expect that there are enough people on here that can help.
    Best of luck in your final decision though !!
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    Hi PhilG,

    My hobby is computers so I enjoy spending the time to build them and get them up and running. With the carputer the knowledge I have gained from my hobby was very useful but the project itself was not a hobby, it was a professional application so it had to work and keep working to be of any use to me. I will most certainly find a use in my hobby for some, if not all, of the carputer parts but it means that I don't have the money which could have been used to buy something that worked in my car. I will just have to save up again for that, so no big deal. Who knows, I may just do what you suggested and keep the carputer on the bench as a hobby project and one day I may be happy enough with it to try it again in my car.

    Best of luck to everyone else with their projects.

    Cheers, Berber

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    Sounds good, take care!
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    3.5 Has been released if you check your account profile. Maybe this can fix some of the problems you've been running into. But remember, if your hardware isn't in order, and you're unfamiliar with how the system is supposed to work, no amount of software can fix your issues. Good luck bud!

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    I don't have enough hair left for this!

    Hi NoTec,

    Thanks for the info about Centrafuse 3.5. I've had to walk away from the carputer project for a while before it drives me .

    Its frustrating in more than one way for me. On one hand I have a desktop running Windows XP SP3 and CF, Destinator, etc. is working perfectly on this system. Its taunting me!!! On the other hand I have my carputer running Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit and had it working in my car for a couple of months before it went FUBAR on me. Now that's just not fair. One thing I have tried to do is format the SSD in the carputer and install Windows XP, seeing as the software seems to run stable on the XP system and not on the Win 7 system. I had to go with Win 7 on the carputer because, for some reason I haven't figured out yet, I can't get past the stage after Setup has finished loading the initial files from the CD. What happens every time is just as Setup is starting the install process the system crashes to a blue screen (BSOD). I can only assume that for some reason XP doesn't find the SSD and the install fails and BSODs. So for this reason I can't experiment to see if running XP on my carputer will fix my problems. I've never used an SSD before so if anyone can tell me if this is normal and knows how to install XP onto an SSD then please tell me, I'd be very greatful for the info.

    One thing I have observed is that when I can get CF to run everything except navigation works as it should. But as soon as I press the Nav button the error messages start popping up and the system freezes. Sometimes I can give it the three fingured salute and shut it down with Task Manager, other times I have to press the reset button. When CF is working enough to let me get at the settings I go to the navigation settings and select None instead of Destinator and the system runs as it should, minus navigation of course. I haven't tested to see if the delayed audio during phone call problem I mentioned in an earlier post is there when I do this. So it would seem the problem is that Destinator and CF don't want to work together on my carputer. I don't understand how everything can work perfectly for a couple of months then suddenly FUBAR and stay FUBAR even after formating the SSD and a clean install of Win 7 and associated software and drivers. Doing this should have solved everything, at least for a couple of months before it FUBARs again. Maybe using an alternative such as Garmin Mobile PC may work, but I'm reluctant to throw more money at software/hardware and risk still having a dud, as I need to save now for something that will work.

    At least with computers being a hobby I can make use of most of the hardware from the carputer so its not a complete loss. I may even turn it into a portable Jukebox with touch screen interface. The SSD from it would be a good upgrade to my HTPC too.

    Cheers, Berber

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