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    Waze Croud Sourced Maps

    Food for thought -

    This is the type of thing that needs to happen - with a bit less of a greedy big brother attitude.

    Building the map could become fun and a addicting for many, especially as the base and algorithms get better.

    http://www.waze.com

    The big problem with Wayze is that they make no commitment about what they are doing with the data the community is creating.

    Their Privacy Policy:
    http://www.waze.com/legal/english/privacy.html

    User Submissions You hereby grant Waze and the users of the Waze Service a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, perpetual, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, copy, distribute, prepare derivative works of display, and perform the User Submissions; other Users may only use Your User Submission for non-commercial purposes, unless otherwise permitted by Waze.

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    This is exactly what I had in mind. But you can see that they obviously want to profit from the data. I don't have a real issue with them making money on it, but they ought to make it available to others via an open API or something of the sort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbyte View Post
    This is exactly what I had in mind. But you can see that they obviously want to profit from the data. I don't have a real issue with them making money on it, but they ought to make it available to others via an open API or something of the sort.
    i do have a problem with them making money on it-- all of the users are contributing for free, and waze is turning around and selling the openly contributed map data... though i don't think i would be so offended if there was a system in place for users to gain points for numbers of tracks uploaded, redeemable for something(1000 points gets you a couple free itunes downloads, etc...) i realize that it is easier said than done, but it could be both a little motivation, and at least a small thank you for helping contribute to a product they are selling

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    Right, but the users are contributing the data and the Waze company is supplying software and information back - for free, I think. What else should they do to compensate users, in your opinion?

    Figuring there are probably at least 10 people working at that company and a payroll of just say $70,000 a head fully loaded with benefits (and I think that is probably pretty low!), they have $840k a year in expenses and probably at least another $100k in facilities and servers and communication costs.

    So, being really conservative (I'll bet the actual burn rate is much, much higher), they have to pull in $1 million a year just to break even. Where would they get that kind of money if they aren't selling the data somehow?

    The open source route is, of course, another option and a different way to do it but they appear to be for-profit.
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    you make a very good point--i easily forget all the people that work behind the scenes to keep the servers up, and create the programming neccesary.

    i guess my idea would only work if they were able to make a significant amount on selling the software and collected data... in that respect, i guess waze has been very well designed, and setup.

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    Here is another blog post I wrote on Friday of last week. It didn't get published until recently. It is worth checking out the movie.

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    I commend startups like waze. Currently the map data world is more or less a duopoly. NavTeq is owned by Nokia, and Tele Atlas by TomTom. While larger players like Apple and Google are getting into the mix, I would commend startups like Waze that are playing with the big dogs.

    Why?
    Because once the data is controlled by a large player, they will exert their influence and market power to license out the map data to terms of their choosing. Waze chose to build on TIGER map data because it is looking to license out accurate and real-time map routes and data. Why WAZE is important? because they keep the other big players honest. Everybody else has a slew of other products on the market. Google and Apple want to provide map data and services for their users. Google, with an advertising led business model will most likely want to use the map data to sell location based ads through its Android phones. Apple the same with iOS and iPhones.

    While Waze could've gone completely open-source without generous donations to keep the lights on, I doubt that the map data would be as accurate. They've spent the past couple years taking public map data-TIGER-to make it current.

    Consumers
    We get a free app with current routing data that takes into consideration the traffic out there. I'm willing to "update" the maps and provide real-time data to them.

    Waze
    Through a partnership with users, Waze gets fresh map and traffic data and hopes to turn around to companies to sell the data (users on one side, licensees on the other). Basically Waze is employing a horizontal strategy to become a baseline for all independent map data.

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    Is it possible to run Waze on PC

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    Quote Originally Posted by elli_h View Post
    Is it possible to run Waze on PC
    No, but since they offer the Windows Phone code as a download it is possible you could port it to a PC and possibly Linux depending on the version of C# they are likely using.

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