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    Which OBDII for my BMW E36 ?

    Hey Guys, I've been learning alot finally decided to make this project in my 97 E36 M3. My list is almost ready, I just want to confirm which OBDII to be used specially that we have the round 20Pin connector ?
    ELM 327 ? or OBDII from Scantool ?

    For the connector, should I get one of those converters on ebay ?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-2...motiveQ5fTools

    Cheers

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    If you have a US Spec car then you should have a proper OBDII socket under the dash (drivers side)

    if you have a European (including UK) spec car then you are out of luck as OBDII wasn't a requirement in Europe until 2001.

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    Enforcer,

    Your statement is not quite correct. For instance a couple of weeks ago I was testing a '99 BMW 323 in Australia. It was fully OBDII compliant, but it did require the 20 pin to 16 pin cable for there was no connector under the dash. I was testing various scan tools and it connected using the following scan tools OBDPro, OBDKey, OBDLink and an ElmScan 5 USB.

    This BMW was purchased new in Australia, and I'm told that it was only in 2000 that the Australian BMW 323s got the connector under the dash. As Australia didn't regulate for OBDII compliance until 2006, then that initiative must have come from BMW. What I've been told re the EU countries is that their vehicles started to become compliant from 2000 onwards and all vehicles had to be fully compliant by 2001. The above only applies to petrol, diesel was 2004-05.

    Of course your broad statement doesn't allow for lead times for manufacturers to incorporate OBDII compliance into a vehicle. It is therefore not quite as black and white as you put it. The only true test in my opinion is to attempt a connection. If the scan tool connects, the vehicle is OBDII compliant. Of course that assumes you are using decent software.

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    My statement is correct as regards the OP's car, I never mentioned the Australian variations because I have no knowledge of them, hence I didn't mention them.

    In the US all cars built after 96 had to have the OBDII connector and is has to be within the drivers reach (god knows why, is he expected to put a connector in whilst driving)

    As for the European spec, seeing as it didn't take off till 2000, it is highly unlikely that a 97 car will be OBDII compliant, they certainly don't have the OBDII connector and again it is highly unlikely to have the OBDII from the 16 pin.

    How do I know this, I have a UK E36 97.

    I have also trawled the net looking for info and solutions for this and found none. However I am willing to be proved wrong, because it would help me out.

    And I suspect the '99 BMW 323 would have been an E46 rather than an E36 unless it was a compact or a vert. Why would it matter? The E46 was a new model and it is likely that the OBDII would have been built in from the start as BMW would have known that they would need to make them compliant and it would easier to do it from the start when building a new model.

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    What the ... r u sure man ? Then what is this converter to the round 20 pins in our cars ?
    Mine is a Euro 1997 M3 ....

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    So is there any type of information I can display on my carputer ?

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    Well you could always get an OBDI/BMW lead and connector. I have one off ebay which I tested with the carsoft software, it gives you some bits.

    But to run that in a front end would be messy, so it would need someone to try and reverse engineer the protocol.


    Something I would like to look into, but I have too many other things going on to do it.


    Here's an interesting thread on it over on bimmerforums

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    holy S***!! iv got a 97 m3 and cant seem to find a stupid obd2 plug anywhere and iv got to have it to pass inspection...how do i tell if it ever had 1 or if i can hook something up to work and if so where???????

    im effin lost lol

    thanks
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