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    Quote Originally Posted by PatDaRat View Post
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    Now is your din .5 or 1.5? If it is .5, then maybe you can mod the VMI70 so that every other part sits behind the dash then only the screen slides in and out of the opening.
    The entire bay is a 1.5. But i want a 1din headunit in there so that leaves me with .5
    OHHHHHHHHHH, then you can buy a simple kit for that. i have seen many that put a motorized screen into a 1 slot, then the .5 is usually a pocket to hold CDs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZX1Cruizer View Post
    OHHHHHHHHHH, then you can buy a simple kit for that. i have seen many that put a motorized screen into a 1 slot, then the .5 is usually a pocket to hold CDs.
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    lol... people on here are so negative. Come up with what you think is a good idea and people will poke holes in it fully believing that it cant be done. All i gotta say is, only time will tell and negative nelly never accomplished anything.
    Anyone who disagrees with you is negative? wow. Theres this crazy thing called experience that was behind our answers but don't let that slow you down.

    its kind of funny that you told off the two forums members with actual engineering experience but hey if you just want a thumbs up here ya go

    Take a look in the hardware development forum and you'll find a thread from 2005-06 where a guy designed a slide-up in CAD and then pulled off a plexiglass mock-up which went in-car. It covers the math and servo selection behind the design. Also, I should probably give you a heads up to remove the pressure switch from the motor assembly of the drive or you wont be able to move anything. But again all of this would involve planning....which you said you didn't want to do....but looks like ya do. That said-what do i know....i only do this for a living

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    Quote Originally Posted by justchat_1 View Post
    Anyone who disagrees with you is negative? wow. Theres this crazy thing called experience that was behind our answers but don't let that slow you down.

    its kind of funny that you told off the two forums members with actual engineering experience but hey if you just want a thumbs up here ya go

    Take a look in the hardware development forum and you'll find a thread from 2005-06 where a guy designed a slide-up in CAD and then pulled off a plexiglass mock-up which went in-car. It covers the math and servo selection behind the design. Also, I should probably give you a heads up to remove the pressure switch from the motor assembly of the drive or you wont be able to move anything. But again all of this would involve planning....which you said you didn't want to do....but looks like ya do. That said-what do i know....i only do this for a living
    You know what I mean. The ones that bash others visions. You know thats what I meant. It was only directed to one particular person, which wasnt you. So pull the pole out you @$$, lol. Do I have to go and reword my post to make you happy?

    Anyways expienece doesnt necesarily mean know it all..... The whole point of the Car PC thing is to experiment and come up with new ideas to get the cr@p to work in the car. If it doesnt work, then try something else. JustChat1 have you built a motorized screen or even tried? So who to say PatDaRat's idea wont work. Mathimatically maybe it doesnt work, but I have seen alot of things built that people say would never work, yet they do.

    As for PatDaRat, i didnt see you didnt want to spend much time or think much about this. Your insane, even the smallest of designs for PC installs take alot of time and thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZX1Cruizer View Post
    You know what I mean. The ones that bash others visions. You know thats what I meant. It was only directed to one particular person, which wasnt you. So pull the pole out you @$$, lol. Do I have to go and reword my post to make you happy?

    Anyways expienece doesnt necesarily mean know it all..... The whole point of the Car PC thing is to experiment and come up with new ideas to get the cr@p to work in the car. If it doesnt work, then try something else. JustChat1 have you built a motorized screen or even tried? So who to say PatDaRat's idea wont work. Mathimatically maybe it doesnt work, but I have seen alot of things built that people say would never work, yet they do.

    As for PatDaRat, i didnt see you didnt want to spend much time or think much about this. Your insane, even the smallest of designs for PC installs take alot of time and thinking.
    Didn't mean to quote you...that wasn't directed at you at all...sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by justchat_1 View Post
    Didn't mean to quote you...that wasn't directed at you at all...sorry
    *gives the look of death to justchat*

    I think next time we should just use names and call the people out, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZX1Cruizer View Post
    As for PatDaRat, i didnt see you didnt want to spend much time or think much about this. Your insane, even the smallest of designs for PC installs take alot of time and thinking.
    I could be mistaken but i dont believe i said anything about not wanting to spend time on this. all i said was im not the type of person will load up CAD and make a working 3d model to see if the air pressure of the flux capacitor will allow the freaking time shift to occur. Jesus, im the type to work things out as i go. I apologize for my sins against nature.

    please stand by as the world ends due to figure as you go planning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZX1Cruizer View Post
    OHHHHHHHHHH, then you can buy a simple kit for that. i have seen many that put a motorized screen into a 1 slot, then the .5 is usually a pocket to hold CDs.
    acctually, this makes the entire thing a little tougher-- din specs is 2" per din, so you need to keep everything that ejects the dash in a 1" package--the stuff in the dash can usually go farther than that because there is sometimes more room, but this is something you will need to check before continuing to see if you have more room on the bottom or the top, to then determine where you can have the most amount of space(in my car, air ducting gets in the way on the top, and hvac controls extend about another 3" into the dash-- which would affect where the other stuff can extend).

    also, you will want to take some measurements on the max depth of the radio location, and also try to allow for max depth with wires that might get in the way.

    these are the make it or break it dimensions-- if you can't fit it to the dimensions of the dash, then you are either going to need to do some serious modifications, or need to consider other options...

    most vga monitors are about 1.5" deep, not including the wiring harness, so you will probly need to modify the casing to make it slimmer. not sure what stuff you use, but i think i could slim down my 629 by about a 1/4" by scrapping the speaker, and backplate, and swapping it for a 1/8" sheet of lexan...

    ok, enough negativity , time for some ideas:

    you can use a small hinge, or use a spring loaded hinge type setup-- if you have ever taken a floppy drive dust cover off-- like that, only with teh idea of being strong enough to pull the screen up.

    i like the idea of the wire to pull the display up, and think that you could expand on this--

    maybe use a small spring attached to the wire, so that the wire is actually keeping tension on the display during the proccess, and shape the area around where the screen pops out to make it smoothly pop out, and to allow the wire to guide the display into the upright position.

    the hardest things that i do not currently have ideas for(but will probably be thinking about for a while) is to overcome the short travel of the cd drives, and to get the 1" height, and keep the entire thing sturdy..

    i would try to do this in 2 steps-- first, get the screen to extend/retract fully in a 1" height(imo, the harder part), and then work on the method to get the screen up.

    sometimes, by the time you get the screen to extend all the way, the method for getting the screen to tilt will just come naturally.

    don't be afraid to try completely wierd stuff-- go get lost in a hardware store, and look for anything and everything that could work-- it could end up being a $10 tool for masonry, or a $2 plumbing trinket--they could all work, so don't limit yourself just to the hinges and springs section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justchat_1 View Post
    Anyone who disagrees with you is negative?
    I cant see anything in your original reply that was in any way nice or helpful. im also fairly sure that you do indeed have a stick up you a$$ and you think your better then everyone around you. well i regret to inform you that other people are capable of doing things to. regardless if it is in your acceptable range of doing things.

    im not exactly sure who you think i blew off other then Maheriano and i guess you, if you decided to take it as a personal attack. I cant say i directed that at you at all but what ever.

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    id like add how i love the fact that you insert words into peoples mouths. please quote me where i said i didnt want to do any planning. figuring things out as i go does not necessarily mean im gonna stick a couple pop sickle sticks together and make a helicopter.

    @soundman98 - hmmmm, spring loaded hinges sounds like a great idea. def gonna have to look into that. In my head everything seems very feasible and im greatly looking forward to the long search parties at the hardware store. should be fun.

    the space im working with is fairly limited but can be made larger with little modification, so i may need to scrap the screen i was planning on. ill keep looking around see if i can find a thinner one or one that can be made thiner. all in all it will indeed be a challenge but thats sorta what i was going for to start with so it should be good.

    the throw of the cdrom i think can be fixed by modifying the tray and extending it. the more i think about it the more im thinking im going to use my arduino as the controller and and use the cd-rom as a guide to how it should work. a motor to move everything in and out and a servo to pull the screen up and down. see this is why i like people who converse back and hit me their thoughs in a positive manner. gets me thinking and new ideas arise. i totally forgot about my arduino. i bought that thing and never could think of something good to use it for. i think this is a better solution then the cd-rom, and hell, with that i could have the screen open and close depending on if the system is booted or not. XD im liking this.

    @ZX1Cruizer - you said you had the VM70 right? have you taken the casing competely off? The specs show 4" thick, is that with the headrest casing? just wondering if this screen can be made to fit my need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatDaRat View Post
    I could be mistaken but i dont believe i said anything about not wanting to spend time on this. all i said was im not the type of person will load up CAD and make a working 3d model to see if the air pressure of the flux capacitor will allow the freaking time shift to occur. Jesus, im the type to work things out as i go. I apologize for my sins against nature.

    please stand by as the world ends due to figure as you go planning.
    I didnt say anything about figure as you go planning. My whole install is based on that, lol. OMG your too dramatic and causing us to fight against each otehr with confusion. Reading your comments, when you snap back at people its even more negative which I think is what is getting people upset.

    Quote Originally Posted by PatDaRat View Post

    @ZX1Cruizer - you said you had the VM70 right? have you taken the casing competely off? The specs show 4" thick, is that with the headrest casing? just wondering if this screen can be made to fit my need.
    Thing is I have this thing about everything looking OEM. My Lilliput in my dash is still in its case so it looks like a OEM headunit. The same way goes for all the VM70 units. Another reason I do it is so I dont void the warranty. Its very thin, almost half as thin as my EBY701. I can measure the casing but I am not taking my baby apart, lol. What measurments do you need? Length, Height, Width?
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