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    Quote Originally Posted by nodnarb
    The only thing with the existing deck is that it dosn't cover the speakers, and I would have to put 1 1/2 inch of fiberglass to get to the heighth that I want.
    I'm not sure I follow you, but are you saying you want the new deck to be 1.5" higher than the stock speakers?

    If so, then it's pretty easy. Just get a piece of 1" mdf and cut it to fit all the way across and sit it on top of the stock speakers. That would make for a good foundation. The front and rear edges can be rolled over, new speaker holes can be made, grill openings can be made, whatever.

    For the grills, you cut the opening to whatever shape you want, add about a 1/4 rollover bit around the top edge, router the back side about an inch all around and about a 3/4 deep. That way you have a 1/4" lip around the opening. Mount your grill material from the bottom. Add a layer of fiberglass, sand it all smooth, add bondo if needed and then paint it.
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    I have a 1993 Dodge Shadow ES. I will get back to you on the details later.

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    very helpful thanks, It's about 1/2 inch to 3/4 inche from the top f the speaker to where I want it.

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    A piece of 3/4 MDF would be about right. It's easy to cut and work with. Just don't cut any holes that are too big from front to rear as it will weaken the board.

    Have you thought about using a higher quality wood? After the edges are beveled or rounded over, sand it, stain it and clear it when your finished. Might look real nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonWW
    Have you thought about using a higher quality wood? After the edges are beveled or rounded over, sand it, stain it and clear it when your finished. Might look real nice.
    He has a point. My first sub box had no fiberglassing, it was just finished MDF. And personally i think it looks great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidewalksalvage
    He has a point. My first sub box had no fiberglassing, it was just finished MDF. And personally i think it looks great.
    I've stained MDF and it looks OK, I was actually thinking he could get a real, "solid" wood. That way you could see the grain in it.
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    thanks but I wanted to paint it green W/ black or the other way around. How many layers would I need to put on the wood and how thick would it be? There would be three substantial holes in it. One of them would be the air hole. Also, When ever I do the subs, do the coils need to be on the inside or the outside of the enclosure?

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    For the speakers you want the voice coils on the inside because they are usually directionally designed. 1/2 or 3/4 inch wood is plenty, especially if there is 2" or mor around each hole. What do you mean by layers? The paint? I find that a nice sand, followed by 1 coat of primer and 1 coat of color. If the color is still two light or not quite right, add a second coat. That should work alright. Remeber to sand inbetween primer and color. If the sand takes off to much primer. Add a second coat and sand again.
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    Subs can be mounted either way. Sidewalksalvage says inside, but I don't understand his reasoning behind that.
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    Oh im sorry i thought it was the speakers on the rear deck...Yes subs can be installed either way. There are two reasons to install coil out. 1 the box can be smaller because volume does not need to include the speaker coil. Therefore bigger base with a smaller box. and two, if you have one sub coil in and another coil out it cancels what is called phase inteference. Its not really a big problem and most dont even hear a diffence, but for some audiophiles its a big thing. There are many ways to install subs, the most common being coil in basically for looks but there are also push pull systems and more complex set ups (including bandpass and other special boxes) if this is your first install, i suggest a basic sealed box and choose coil in or out depending on asthetics. Note however, a coil out sub is more vunerable to dammage.

    The reason i stated before coil in, is because with mid range and especially high range, the seakers are generally designed to be coil in because of directional design. Subs produce low range sound which up to about 100Hz or so is omnidirectional and position and direction is not so important.

    sorry for the confusion.
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