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    A/C Control Relocation

    So, I have my engine work done on my truck, next phase of V2 is the interior. Since I am a complete n00b when it comes to fiberglassing and and kind of fabrication, I figured it would be easier to tackle my A/C controls relocation instead of the screen. Just a preview though, I am going to be putting a 15.4" into the dash.

    So, on to the A/C controls.... I am kinda just flying by the seat of my pants on this one and cutting wood and seeing what I can do with that. So far, I have made a small frame around the controls and was thinking about putting three braces underneath the whole setup attached to the dash and that would be how it would hold.

    Needed to get some feedback on what I have so far and maybe if you guys forsee any problems with this. I am going to fiberglass the whole thing when I have built the frame.

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    Alright, got a little bit deeper into this project. I think it is coming along well for my first time. I decided to build a little enclosure for the A/C controls, so started with the mold of the back part of it. My goal is to build the frame on to this molded part so that I can just fleece and resin this and have the A/C controls sit perfectly underneath. Let me know what you guys think.

    Oh also, one issue during fiberglassing is that I taped off my area, then laid the fiberglass down, but the tape stuck to the fiberglass bad and I couldn't get it all off. I did spray the tape down with WD-40, but I guess that wasn't enough. Is there something better I should use next time? Will this hurt my current project? This is the back part, so it isn't even going to be seen.












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    Might be a little late now but if you have an over head console I know of at least one person that extended the wires and placed theirs there.

    Guessing your truck from the controls is a 2002 or older truck.

    The over head console is a more logical place and leaves that area open for installing a floor console if you should so desire.

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    Yeah, I would have done that, but I already have my controller for my H701 and center channel speaker up there. In a single cab truck, I just don't have as many spots to put things.

    Also, was able to get a little further today with the fiberglassing. The fleecing was a pain,but I think I might have gotten it to work OK. The only problem was at the bottom where I should have resin'd all the way to the front like I did on the sides. It created a low spot now. My initial thought there was that I needed that space to screw the enclosure into the dash. Don't think it is going to be a problem as I am going to make a cover to go over the front of the controls and over the bottom anyways. Let me know what you guys think or if I need to do anything differently to more forward.











    VERY Rough until I start sanding and cutting excess away, but definitely looking closer to finished product.


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    Got further now in the project. I was able to put a few more layers of glass on it and also the body filler on the outside. After that I was able to sand down the filler. Looks a lot smoother, but I have a question that I hope someone can help me with.

    I would like to make a cover over this whole piece, so would I even need to smooth the rest of the filler down even? If I wasn't doing a cover, would I sand this down all the way smooth? Right now I am using 60-grit, but when should I switch to 120 or more grit?

    Without further ado, pics....










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    Just a couple of comments...regarding getting the F/G to release from the tape, next time put a layer of Carnauba based car wax on the tape before laying it up, it should release fairly easily then.

    Regarding the amount of filler you appear to have on there...if it's a thick as it looks, it's going to crack in time (unless it's not as thick as it looks in the pics). I would keep sanding each flat surface until the color from underneath starts to show through in one spot. Ideally I like to hit the F/G with a belt sander to take some of the hills out of it before adding filler.

    If you are wrapping the box in some type of material with a padding underneath then perfectly smooth is not critical but I would still try to get rid of as much filler as possible, you will still be able to see through the material that the surfaces that are suppose to be flat are not...

    Keep up the good work, with some perseverance, you'll end up with what you want!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilG View Post
    Just a couple of comments...regarding getting the F/G to release from the tape, next time put a layer of Carnauba based car wax on the tape before laying it up, it should release fairly easily then.

    Regarding the amount of filler you appear to have on there...if it's a thick as it looks, it's going to crack in time (unless it's not as thick as it looks in the pics). I would keep sanding each flat surface until the color from underneath starts to show through in one spot. Ideally I like to hit the F/G with a belt sander to take some of the hills out of it before adding filler.

    If you are wrapping the box in some type of material with a padding underneath then perfectly smooth is not critical but I would still try to get rid of as much filler as possible, you will still be able to see through the material that the surfaces that are suppose to be flat are not...

    Keep up the good work, with some perseverance, you'll end up with what you want!
    Thanks for the feedback! That helps a lot. I have read the wax idea. I will definitely do that next time as it was hard to get off!

    As far as the filler, yes, I think you are right. That is nothing but filler on the outside, but now that I remember seeing other projects, the filler is just showing where the low spots are, so I guess I have some heavy sanding left to do.

    If you notice the pics before I put the filler on though, there are spots where the entire enclosure's F/G was not level or even at all. Do you think I would be OK leaving a big chuck of filler in these areas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willn View Post
    If you notice the pics before I put the filler on though, there are spots where the entire enclosure's F/G was not level or even at all. Do you think I would be OK leaving a big chuck of filler in these areas?
    BTW, in addition to my last post: adding foil tape can also help with the release but isn't always necessary.

    If you want to be sure it won't crack when the filler completely dries and shrinks, I would suggest taking a belt sander, grinder whatever to it and remove as much filler as possible. Any low spots in the bare glass could then be topped up with a little more resin/cloth or even add a couple more layers leveling as you go then sanded/ ground down to be close to level then reapply the filler. Just don't add the F/G over any filler unless someone that is really well versed in these products tells you it's OK.

    Remember if you catch the filler in it's "green stage" before it's completely hard, that Rage Gold sands like butter, it's great stuff.
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    Do you plan to make a trim piece for where the bolts go? Just curious.

    I haven't used fiberglass before and would be a little scared to do so but looks like your doing great with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilG View Post
    Remember if you catch the filler in it's "green stage" before it's completely hard, that Rage Gold sands like butter, it's great stuff.
    Yeah, I have had good luck with the Rage Gold so far. I took a hand sanding pad to it today and went to town. I got it pretty low, but I kept it high in certain places because I knew I was going to add a cover to it, so even if it cracked in the higher places, the cover would mask the cracks. I just have to make sure to get the cover perfect on filler and sanding.

    Quote Originally Posted by redheadedrod View Post
    Do you plan to make a trim piece for where the bolts go? Just curious.
    Yes, I am going to make a cover to mask the enclosure, and I am thinking about using some sort of push clips to hold it in place. Something like what automotive plastic panels are held on with.

    By the time I got the enclosure taped up for glassing, I realized I forgot to buy wax for release and more glass mat, so I had to stop for tonight, but here is how far I got.














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