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    Sticky on how to paint?

    We should have a sticky on how to paint the final product. I have all my epoxy work done, and I'm ready to paint, BUT, there are a million ways out there, and I don't want to make all my time go to waste.

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    all depends of finish you want though doesnt it

    what u after?

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    a few tips..

    1) practice on something before you actually do it on the final product

    2) spraying is better than brushing because it won't leave streaks

    3) do not overspray!!! (i over sprayed and nearly ruined 2 months of work)
    rebuilding carpc... kinda..

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    always spray light coats from 12-18 inches way. 5-10 minutes between coats depending on the paint you're using. After the first 2-3 coats, you should still be able to see the primer. After 5-6 coats, it should give you a nice even matte finish similar to stock finish. If it's still too glossy, spray a couple of light coats from 24 inches away and let the paint fall onto the surface.

    for a high gloss finish, spray about 5 coats of clear then wetsand with 1000 grit, 1500 and 2000 grit sand paper in that order. Becareful not to sand away too much. It will make a smooth slightly hazy finish. Take some rubbing compound (3m fine cut) and rub until glossy. Pay attention to the rag you're using to polish. You'll know that you've sanded through the clear when your rag starts picking up the color of the spray paint.
    Top it off with some wax.

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    Hi

    Assuming you're painting with automotive grade paint (PPG, Dupont, HOK, etc.), air powered spray tools (HVLP, conventional, etc.), and a decent painting environment, just remember to:

    1) scuff the substrate, whether it be plastic, fiberglass, metal, etc. scuff with either a scotchbrite or 400-600 grit.

    2) if you're starting with a bare plastic substrate, clean it to all heck, first with warm water and soap, then after you dry it, use a wax and grease remover.

    3) Depending on substrate, you may want to consider an adhesion promoter. If not, spray with an epoxy primer, let it flash, then spray with a polyester surfacer.

    4) Block sand it down, finish with 600 grit sandpaper.

    5) Spray with sealer until full coverage.

    6) Spray base, depending on color, amount of coats vary, generally speaking, 2 is good for a solid base color (red, blue, green). I usually spray a tack coat, then spray a medium-wet coat.

    7) spray clear, always start with what you want it to look like. If you want a glass finish, spray heavy, to the point in which you're almost inducing runs, but don't spray to the point where it starts to run. 3 coats is max for a 2k-high solids urethane clear, if you want more, let it cure for 24 hours, sand with 600, then spray 3 more coats.

    8) cut 'n' buff if you want, if not, then don't.

    9) you're done

    If you're painting with spray bombs (rattle cans), as everyone said, keep it to light coats, almost misting. It helps to stay a far distance, and quick passes. You're not trying to reach full coverage in 1 pass....more like 5 passes. Of course, that'll make it seem somewhat grainy, but it's a spray bomb, not an IWATA lph-400. Sanding in between coats does help, but if you do, remember to lay on one last coat of color before you clear it, or else it won't adhere. Alright, just wanted to help, good luck =D.

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    Good info if you have a body shop at your disposal. For spray can work, I always finish with a wet coat. Depending on the product and how well it covers, it may take several coats to cover though. A good rule of thumb is to always start with a lighter mist coat, and to allow every coat to fully "flash off" before applying the next. The wet coat takes practice. There is a fairly fine line between a wet coat and runs. One thing I always do is warm the spray can in hot water for 20 mins. before spraying. This increases the pressure and gives better atomization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altimat
    One thing I always do is warm the spray can in hot water for 20 mins.
    How hot? aren't you concerned about explosion? there is all sort of warnings on the can. It does sound good though.

    One more thing, what does "flash" mean?

    Sorry, new to this.

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    Sounds like we are getting a really good thread going, with people with lots of experience here.

    I have a 2000 Grand Prix, and I am looking for the finish of stock. Color will be a dark color, graphite is what it's called. Right now I have flush mounted my lcd screen with some plastic epoxy that you mix together.

    I might go into a paint shop in the next few days, and ask them for advice on what to buy, and they can mix the color I want. But it's good to hear all the different ways everyone does it

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingtut
    How hot? aren't you concerned about explosion? there is all sort of warnings on the can. It does sound good though.

    One more thing, what does "flash" mean?

    Sorry, new to this.
    Flash means the solvents have evaporated out. Tap hot water is fine.
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    Perhaps you paint smart people can tell me what caused this really bizarre problem?

    Very Unique Bondo Problem! Paint Screwing it up?
    CarPC install is starting to come along again...

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