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    Quote Originally Posted by gerard
    is there going to be a bezel without the dvd drive too ?
    Possibly. I have to make and sell my initial batch of faceplates before I can invest more money on another faceplate design. I mentioned in the original post that I'm not looking to get rich... and I've been trying to keep the price down so that the sales of the faceplates cover my expenses instead of make me a profit. I didn't plan to make a business out of this so I didn't build in a mark-up to finance future endeavors. Maybe I should have.

    To give you guys an idea of what's going on, financially, one faceplate costs about $400 with the drawings I have right now (which are being modified). By comparison, 12 faceplates cost about $1100. So you see, I can keep the price under $100 with shipping by upping my volume.

    One concern I have is that the drawing revisions ARE adding complexity which IS going to increase the price. Furthermore, the black teflon coating that most folks want is adding another $10 per unit. I'm trying like mad to keep it under $100, but it's creeping up there, guys.

    NOW, the good news is, that after the drawings are completed, the DVD-free faceplate will not suffer from as much engineering cost so I feel safe saying ONE of those will only cost around $200 with less complexity and material, and 10 of them will probably be around $800. But I don't have a market for 10! So the price starts creeping back up.
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    If the material is a DEAD-ON match to the OEM, I think I would go with that, otherwise put me in the aluminum column.

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    email sent to ya! Count me in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUZE
    If the material is a DEAD-ON match to the OEM, I think I would go with that, otherwise put me in the aluminum column.
    Hmmm... would you say that the radio is a "dead-on" match? I'd say it's close enough that it doesn't stand out. My objective is to perform the same goal as the radio - a match that's close enough to the factory dash that it appears OEM even though it is not the exact same material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R32 JUhl
    Hmmm... would you say that the radio is a "dead-on" match?
    Definitely. I think having it look as close to OEM as possible would detract itself
    from theives. Ok, put me back in the OEM column,

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    I know that I may not have any experience with molds or anything, but I really think it would be cheaper if you got some plastic pellets like this http://www.trli.com/ or hell, maybe you could even melt old floppy disks and such. But the thought of having them machine each one is just a waste of time, money, energy, and everything else.

    I am sure it wouldnt be that hard to make a mold, and if you are trying to make it look stock anyway, then isnt plastic the right choice?

    Just my thoughts, but I really think machining each one is the wrong way about it. Even if the mold cost you 500 bucks, you would still save money in the long run, and be able to make them whenever they are needed. And I am sure you could find some way to melt the plastic, maybe torch or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbuchman
    I know that I may not have any experience with molds or anything, but I really think it would be cheaper if you got some plastic pellets like this http://www.trli.com/ or hell, maybe you could even melt old floppy disks and such. But the thought of having them machine each one is just a waste of time, money, energy, and everything else.

    I am sure it wouldnt be that hard to make a mold, and if you are trying to make it look stock anyway, then isnt plastic the right choice?

    Just my thoughts, but I really think machining each one is the wrong way about it. Even if the mold cost you 500 bucks, you would still save money in the long run, and be able to make them whenever they are needed. And I am sure you could find some way to melt the plastic, maybe torch or something.

    Matt
    hmm, R32 bezel are not plastic, does that mean they are not stock and not good enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbuchman
    I know that I may not have any experience with molds or anything, but I really think it would be cheaper if you got some plastic pellets like this http://www.trli.com/ or hell, maybe you could even melt old floppy disks and such. But the thought of having them machine each one is just a waste of time, money, energy, and everything else.

    I am sure it wouldnt be that hard to make a mold, and if you are trying to make it look stock anyway, then isnt plastic the right choice?

    Just my thoughts, but I really think machining each one is the wrong way about it. Even if the mold cost you 500 bucks, you would still save money in the long run, and be able to make them whenever they are needed. And I am sure you could find some way to melt the plastic, maybe torch or something.

    Matt
    You might be onto something if it weren't for the fact that the plastic isn't strong enough to do what I need it to do. Once you see the prototype, you'll see what I'm talking about.

    Hey guys, I know it's been a while without an update, so here goes - bad news and all. I haven't had time to make much progress over the last week. Something about planning a wedding that just gets in the way of normal life. Rest assured however, that I am taking Friday off to work on the faceplate. So I should have good news to share soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rushnrockt
    hmm, R32 bezel are not plastic, does that mean they are not stock and not good enough?
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    500 bucks
    Try thousands of dollars. After the mold, the per-unit price does drop considerably though.

    Still, the volume of this project is low enough to make that a poor option.

    Then there is the problem of finding a reputable caster that will deal with individuals/small runs.

    That said, the search for a caster for Empeg buttons is documented here and here.

    And a discussion of related costs here.

    I'm not sure if he ever names the caster he came up with, but if you search enough, you may find it.

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