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    :-P i jump curbs all the time with my truck and the hd is mounted flat nothing has happend yet :-)

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    Sorry for not replying sooner... I was out of this forum for a while...

    Quote Originally Posted by Viscouse
    What standoffs did you use for the mobo?
    I've used *regular* standoffs you can buy at your local electornics/computer parts store. Then I drilled a little hole through the wood (not all the way down) and used a nut on the other side of the floor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viscouse
    How'd you mount the HDD?
    If you look at the bottom of any 3.5" HDD you'll notice that there are 4 screw holes. I drilled two diagonal holes in the wooden side panel and used regular screws to mount in there.
    Since this box will sooner or later be carpeted all around, none of the screws would be visible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viscouse
    Not really a question, but more of a curiousity...Why only 1 case fan? Don't you want another one on the opposite end? 1 for input one for output?
    My father and I had an argument about the case fans. Short version: he won. Long version: the airflow produced by one system fan (and one processor fan) is perfect in action. The SysFan blows air straight on the hard disk, then it passes through the video and audio cards, gets sucked in through the processor fan while going through the grill, and eventually comes out inbetween the cards and I/O ports (it wasn't completed when I was taking pics so you can't see how that panel was done).
    Hard Drive temperature hardly ever goes above 37C. WindowsXP wasn't compaining about the MoBo/Processor getting too hot so I guess we're in business.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viscouse
    I really like the telco jack idea!
    Thanks! This goes to my father; he's a telecomm engineer. I've also used this idea to extend and hard wire my Passport radar detector into the dash.

    Quote Originally Posted by evandude
    a P4 on a PW200??

    have you got it running yet?
    Yeah, from 3 days after starting this thread and until this day I've had absolutely NO power problems. And I'm powering everything you see in this box, 1 Linksys USB WiFi, 1 Keyboard w/ Extension, 1 USB 2.0 hub (powered from the PS/2 mouse jack), 1 USB GPS, 1 USB touchscreen (unsure if it's self powered or not), and 1 Keychain drive (at times). So far so good but I can appreciate your concern, evandude.

    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixPC
    It would be magical if you have the PC running with P4 and PW200.
    I don't mean to brag, but same as what I wrote to evandude goes to you too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonicxtacy02
    Good luck with that hard drive vertical mount. There are people who say it will fail easier that way.
    So far so good, none of the songs/videos I've played so far had skipped a single beat.

    Quote Originally Posted by evandude
    From what i've heard, vertical mounting is better. think about it, if it's horizontal, if you hit a bump the heads hit the platters. if it's vertical, the heads will move parallel to the platters, which will cause data read errors as the heads will shake out of alignment, but it seems better than having them hit the platters.
    This seems to make good sense. Thanks Man.

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    Finally somebody to back me up with the PW200 hehehe (I use it too)
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    I must say that is one tight looking setup. Nicely done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thanatos106
    Finally somebody to back me up with the PW200 hehehe (I use it too)
    LoL, after reading evandude's & MatrixPC's replies I got a bit scared I was the only one. Right back at you, bro'.

    Quote Originally Posted by madmartigan
    I must say that is one tight looking setup. Nicely done!
    Thanks! I have even bigger plans for that box but they involve cutting 11.5 & 78.5 angles... Heck, I'll even go with 30 & 60, but it's kind of hard with a hand saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJiK
    Yeah, from 3 days after starting this thread and until this day I've had absolutely NO power problems. And I'm powering everything you see in this box, 1 Linksys USB WiFi, 1 Keyboard w/ Extension, 1 USB 2.0 hub (powered from the PS/2 mouse jack), 1 USB GPS, 1 USB touchscreen (unsure if it's self powered or not), and 1 Keychain drive (at times). So far so good but I can appreciate your concern, evandude.
    Seriously, Did you hook up to the car battery and the engine is running?
    The reason the PWxxx power won't works because the 12V is NOT regulate. If the car engine is NOT running, thing will work (maybe) because the battery voltage is about 12V. If the car is running, voltage will reach to 14V+ and that will KILL that 3.5" HD. I am not sure which part of the mobo that 14V will kill.
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    Since I don't think I've seen it mentioned yet... are you using an external 12v regulator in addition to the PW200? the problems matrixPC is talking about would definitely apply if you are not... even if they aren't causing problems yet, your hardware will probably not last very long when powered with unregulated voltage (I had an external hard drive powered directly from the battery, and it worked for a couple weeks and then it would immediately bluescreen the computer when plugged in from then on)

    If you are using an external regulator, I'm still shocked that the PW200 can run your system at all. 60 watts total on all rails except 12v is not a lot by any means... the only way I can envision it working is if your motherboard and peripherals are heavily dependent on 12v and not very dependent on any of the lower voltages, so they won't draw as much from the PW200.
    But don't take it from me! here's a quote from a real, live newbie:
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    Yeah, try running in the car and everything then brag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixPC
    Seriously, Did you hook up to the car battery and the engine is running?
    The reason the PWxxx power won't works because the 12V is NOT regulate. If the car engine is NOT running, thing will work (maybe) because the battery voltage is about 12V. If the car is running, voltage will reach to 14V+ and that will KILL that 3.5" HD. I am not sure which part of the mobo that 14V will kill.
    I only use my carputer with the car running. I don't want to drain the battery. Like I said earlier, so far so good.

    Quote Originally Posted by evandude
    Since I don't think I've seen it mentioned yet... are you using an external 12v regulator in addition to the PW200?
    Sorry to disappoint you / Happy to surprise you (take it any way you want it) but I'm not running any regulators/stabilizers.

    Nonetheless I did take my time to listen your advices:
    First of all, I have a voltmeter in my Passport radar so I can always my car's (and apparently carputer's) voltage at any time. I've never seen it go above 13.8, and rarely above 13.4. I agree that this might be harmful to the HD as well.
    I just came back from the garage after running some basic tests. Here are the pics:
    How the voltmeter is connected:


    What the voltmeter shows:

    The only device that the eats off the 12V rail and could potentially get hurt is the Hard Disk, which consumes about 0.5A on the 12V input.

    Quote Originally Posted by evandude
    (I had an external hard drive powered directly from the battery, and it worked for a couple weeks and then it would immediately bluescreen the computer when plugged in from then on)
    I've been using this carputer the way I've described everything for almost a month now. I guess I'm either lucky like that, or my Hard Drive is better than yours. (Just kidding).

    If anything starts giving me problems I'll consider regulating the HD 12V input. As for now though, I'm sticking to my nave approach.


    BTW, here are more pics of the now completed box:
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    Oh damn, Dont tell me your running that system right next to your subs! You must have a good hard drive. Most hard drives will go into a protect mode at anything more then 1G of force. Please....what is the make of your hard drive

    And the rest of the guys here know there power supplies. I wish my system would run without a regulator. I have an alt that runs at 14.3volts and my system will shut down at that voltage. I had to cut it up and wire a 15amp regulator to make it run stable. Even then i need more current. My system also wont stay on pass crank do to low voltage.

    I ran my system today and everyhing seems stable. Im still in the modding proccess

    Good luck on your system. Is that a 1000watt 5.1 suround amp and does your computer output 5.1 to it?
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