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Thread: Replace Civic 96-98 heater control panel with 99-00 panel

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    First you need to make sure you remove the center dashboard lower cover (the cover with cigarette lighter connector). Then remove the radio.

    Next steps depend on if you're removing controls from a 99-00 Civic or a 96-98 Civic:

    96-98:

    * Rear defog & hazard switches must be removed - use a fine tipped screwdriver for this to pry them out. It's tricky and if you're not careful you can ruin the finish.
    * Disconnect the air mix cable going from climate controls to heater box.
    * The rear defog & hazard switches exposed two screws. Remove them. Three other screws remain and can be accessed from underneath the climate controls where the cigarette lighter panel used to be. Remove these screws too (total is five screws).
    * Disconnect any remaining electrical stuff.
    * Seven different clips remain which cause the climate controls to snap into the dashboard. Carefully unclip them and the controls should come out.

    99-00:

    * Disconnect electrical cables.
    * Four screws hold in the climate controls. They are all accessible underneath from the panel holding the cigarette lighter.
    * Seven snaps hold in the panel. Carefully unsnap them and remove the panel.

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    Managed to open it with your help!!

    Thank you so much!!!

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    Finally got the touchscreen installed so some little jackass can steal it, along with my amps and laptop. Pictures posted on cardomain, (link below)

    http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2224842/2

    Behind the screen is an xbox motherboard and psu, the xbox dvd rom drive sat down behind the cupholders.

    The width on the 99-00 bezel is just perfect, but the height leaves around an inch to be desired, so there was some hacking involved which resulted in the loss of one directional fin on either vent, but they both still had complete functionality.

    The three buttons on the front of the 99-00 bezel were wired up to power for the xbox, eject for xbox, and power for the laptop.
    Hope you all find this useful . . . . i hate thieves. If i can make a suggestion to someone who might improve on what ive done here, . . . make some sort of retractable rolling door or something to slide over the screen when not in the car. thieves will break in for damn near anything, but if they cant see something worth anything, they probably wont bother.

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    CivicModz,
    any progress on your project?

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    im done waiting

    ive given up hope and renounced my faith in the CivicModz ultimate climate control system.

    Since i had a little insurance money to play with, ive now procured the components needed to do the official swap

    http://www.honda-tech.com/zeropost?cmd=tshow&id=605432

    Wish me luck.

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    Good luck! Don't forget you need to get your A/C system discharged before you start work (if you want to stay legal).

    For parts, I found the blower motor assembly on eBay quite reasonably. The heater box I procured from a forumer on honda-tech.com, also quite reasonably. You might be able to find those on eBay now as well though - when I looked there were only 96-98 heater boxes but maybe people are selling the new ones now. The climate controls you can get on eBay for ~$100, give or take a few.

    Make sure to get the new wiring harnesses - you need two - a big one and a much smaller one. You'll pay a good bit of money for them from the dealer, so try to get them as part of your other purchases. In my case, the guy who sold me his heater box shipped me the wiring harnesses I needed too - all for $50 shipped.

    The center duct you will probably just need to get from the dealer. It's a $20 part.

    I'm probably forgetting some small obvious thing - it's been awhile since I did the swap - about a year now.

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    Thanks for the tip, ill keep that in mind.

    I found a guy on CraigsList who had a 99-00 SI Climate control bezel with the knob assembly etc for 50 bones, then i found another guy on CL who was selling a scrapped out 99 civic that had been rolled, i got the last things that were in there; the heater core, blower motor, wiring harness and the center dash vent. ripped those things out before he took it to the crushers, and was outta there for 100 bucks.

    Total investment in conversion: 150 bucks :-D

    lets just hope it all works. . .
    Pred, would you say that walkthrough is pretty accurate?
    also, how long did it take you to do the swap?

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    It took me a couple days (but I wasn't working on it 100% of the time either). But I never work on cars much either, so if you're comfortable with that sort of thing it should take you less time. To be on the safe side, start it on a Sunday morning or something. A lot of the trim around the dashboard, etc. gets ripped out but you can get the car in a drivable state without that sort of thing, of course. You could also ask one of your more knowledgable friends how long it would take to replace the entire heater box since that's basically what you're doing - it's the bulk of the work.

    I'd say the walkthrough was reasonably accurate but for me it was not detailed enough. I had both the official Honda service manual and electrical manual. You could do ok without the electrical I think though. For me, the service manual was valuable as it is very thorough and professionally written - it helps you find that one last hidden bolt preventing you from ripping something out, for example. For the most part you can just follow the directions on replacing the heater box. There are no directions for replacing the center vent (guess that's not common to replace) but it's not hard to figure it out once you have the dash out - just be careful of the airbag. If you can, I'd see if you can buy/borrow one at low cost for the job - it could save you some frustration (again, unless you are totally comfortable with it).

    Oh, you will also want a soldering iron, wire strippers, and some scrap wire. My recollection is that the part of the harness going to part of the evaporator needs to be extended a few inches. You'll quickly find out soon enough when you are hooking up the new harness. Just be sure to have those tools on hand so you don't waste time getting them with your cabin all ripped apart.

    Google around, there is some guy with 3 pages of images of when he did the swap. I can't find it at the moment though, but it's out there.

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    Well i finally found a weekend to do the swap, the car got gutted, and switched everything out. Besides breaking the old heater core and getting coolant EVERYWHERE in the car, it went great. Everything works great, and now ive got 2 dins! YAY!
    so now its time to lay down the b-quiet matting, and the interior pieces can go back in, which got dyed black while they were out. The dash turned out especially good with the dye, im gonna hit it with some armorall too, hope it doesnt crack/peel like it did on the steering wheel, oh well ill just hit it with a few layers of clear coat and that should fix the flaking problem (i hope!)

    All in all, the guide was pretty helpful, and it wasnt too difficult to do, besides the hoses . . . that part was a royal pain. id suggest using some WD40 and spraying it under the hoses that connect to the heater core, I broke the pipe coming out of the heater core the hose was on there so tight!

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    Would It be hard or near impossible to put the civic hvac controls in a pontiac grand am?

    I want to intergrate the bezel into the one I have now
    Microsoft Is a Evil Empire that has corrupted a generation!

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