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Thread: Vinyl (Carbon Fiber, Brushed Al, Woodgrain etc) contact sheet for finish?

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    Vinyl (Carbon Fiber, Brushed Al, Woodgrain etc) contact sheet for finish?

    I ed this forum and 5-6 posts showed up. Only found one person (with Dodge Neon I think) who posted one picture of the finished dash. Please, Don't go "Search more you idiot baa baa baa" because I am a newbie.

    But then again, if I missed it somehow, my bad. Please be kind enough to show me where it is.

    I'm planning to do a center dash to fit 10.4 LCD. I'll have to use Bondo, Putty, Fiberglass, MDF and lots of sanding... to get the shape right. They are all fine. I can do that. But I want the finish to look like Carbon Fiber. I can't do the real CF because no way to put pressure on it while epoxy's curing, to get the glossy finish. Right?

    So I went to the Pepboy yesterday and looked at some of the CF-looking contact sheets. They looked so cheap. Cheesy at best.... They did NOT looked like CF at all. If you put them on bumper/hood and look at it from ten feet away, they might look ok. But dashboard pieces are within inches from your eyes.

    My Accord SE has black interior, which comes from factory with several Carbon Fiber looking trim pieces. (Center Storage bin, cover for 12V socket, Window switch bezel, etc.) They are bit dark, but looks almost like a real thing.

    Are those "Contact Vinyl Sheet" really ok for dash piece? I've got a few questions for anyone who's done/considered this.

    1. How should I prep the surface right before I apply the sheet?
    2. If I have holes (for LCD buttons / Dials for HVAC control), how do I make sure the sheet stretches into the hole so it looks clean?
    3. Any longevity issues?
    4. Is the self-adhesive backing strong enough for several years?
    5. Are there any "Better" brand? AVERY brand appears better, but are there better ones?

    TIA.

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    Thinking outside the box have a look at this.

    http://www.modicoat.com/id41.htm

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    Moit, we are still "in the box". People here are mostly DIY hackers, and if it's something they can do, they'll do it themselves, even if it cost more at the end (That's the funny bit - we think it'll be cheaper to DIY, but this is where we need to think outside the box)

    Yeah there are few places in US that does this. We send our pieces in, they dope it with CF, BA, WG, whatever finish and ships back to us. During the process, they not only take our parts, but also our arms and legs as well.

    I ordered some Avery brand CF contact sheet. $18 for 18" x 36" sheet. I'll see what these look like. They say it's got 5 year UV rating or something... My car is tinted so I hope it gets little more life than that.

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    I'd love to be able to woodgrain overlay my fabbed bezel.

    There are kits out there for my factory bezel that LOOK good.

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    you need to check out phoenic imaging

    http://www.phoenix-image.com/

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    Yeah the factory bezel cover that has CF/Woodgrain looks on.. those are stick-on's.

    If I fab my dashboard, it's shape will be different. I can't use any of those kits.

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    did you even look at my link?



    the way this process works is they lay a thin sheet of some sort of design in water, it then liquifys and they dip your dash part into it and then the design adheres to the part contouring to any shape.

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    looks really sweet, cause i don't think you can strech them as well if you buy specialized vynil, it's so thin, with little heatgun it will just melt and rip

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    Yes I checked the link you provided. Phoenix imaging link has lots of pictures but does not mention how they put them on. Thanks for clarification. I understand now.

    So the contact sheet would work for fairly simple contour, but I won't be able to stretch/bend using heat gun... I was thinking about doing just that.

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    that hydrographics process will work even with extreme curves & shapes... you could do this on a curve as radical as a basketball, there is no way to duplicate this at all by yourself with films unless your piece is relatively flat...

    it costs alot, but it's the ONLY way to really get what it is you want.... how BAD do you really want it, is what will determine if your willing to pay the price...

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