Fusion Control Centre Uber Edition -- Need Testers

**h3rk** · 11-23-2007, 09:44 AM

What does <button vote="attached"> do? Does it hold the <button functionTargetID="xxx"> equal to it's opinion? What is the other valid state; "detached"? I see you've omitted it in some of the examples where a functionTargetID's value is incremented.

As the program runs through the skin's contribution, does it pass through the <all variables> portion each time? Would the variable's values reset if not held by an attached button's state? If I send "true" to a variable but do not use <button vote="attached"> would it send a pulse of true to the variable for one tick, and then that variable would go back to false?

I'm looking for that functionality, that of a momentary pushbutton, making a variable true only when pushed.

EDIT:

I'd like to know if you change a boolean variable that's referenced in a button's functionTargetID field from it's opinion field state, can that affect the button's state? I've been trying and failing.

( I want to affect a button's state from the <all statements> section, How do I do it?)

**h3rk** · 11-23-2007, 10:50 AM

So far, this:

Code:

      <variable
        name="setProcessAuto">
        <boolean>false</boolean>
      </variable>

gives me an error, "Error in a variable delcaration in the configuration file. Variable must have an initial value.

So does this:

Code:

      <variable
        name="setProcessAuto">
        "false"
      </variable>

and this:

Code:

      <variable
        name="setProcessAuto">
        false
      </variable>

using

Code:

      <variable do="set" name="setProcessAuto">
        <boolean>false</boolean>
      </variable>

will work in the statements area, but even if put in the variable area after setting it to 0 prior, I get that error.

So it looks like my boolean variables have to be initialized as something like 0.

???

**2k1Toaster** · 11-23-2007, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by h3rk

What does <button vote="attached"> do? Does it hold the <button functionTargetID="xxx"> equal to it's opinion? What is the other valid state; "detached"? I see you've omitted it in some of the examples where a functionTargetID's value is incremented.

Yes it is "attached" and "detached". As of right now it only applies to "trigger output" because I didnt thnik about doing it for variables... Will do though.

See this is why I need testers!

Originally Posted by h3rk

As the program runs through the skin's contribution, does it pass through the <all variables> portion each time? Would the variable's values reset if not held by an attached button's state? If I send "true" to a variable but do not use <button vote="attached"> would it send a pulse of true to the variable for one tick, and then that variable would go back to false?

No the all variables is only gone through once on skin reading. So it is only used for setting a variable with an intial state really. Right now, a variable cannot be "attached" but I will make it so for next time.

And attached means that it directly depends on the value of the variable. So if the variable is true, then it will display imagePrimary, then if it is false it will display imageSecondary. That is controlled directly. If it is detached, then it goes off of the own buttons state. If the button is in imagePrimary, and the vote opinion is true, then when you click it, it will change to imageSecondary, and send a false command to the variable. Now if the variable is independantly changed to true by some other button, the original button here will still have the same image.

And things that dont have "functionTargetID"'s are ones that dont have a specified target such as the page buttons. The "target" is where it is directed to such as a variable name or output name or something.

Originally Posted by h3rk

I'm looking for that functionality, that of a momentary pushbutton, making a variable true only when pushed.

Momentary... Hmmm I will have to think on this. You want it to send on when first touched and then false when released... Ok I think I can do something.

Originally Posted by h3rk

EDIT:

I'd like to know if you change a boolean variable that's referenced in a button's functionTargetID field from it's opinion field state, can that affect the button's state? I've been trying and failing.

Not right now but explained above hopefully. Basically yes if attached, and no if detached.

Originally Posted by h3rk

( I want to affect a button's state from the <all statements> section, How do I do it?)

It will be in the "then" section that doesnt do much as of right now. I am working on that right now though. I will make some example code in the skin file.

**2k1Toaster** · 11-24-2007, 04:41 AM

Ok, new version:

RAR: http://www.fusioncontrolcentre.com/T...er20071124.rar
ZIP: http://www.fusioncontrolcentre.com/T...er20071124.zip

**h3rk** · 11-24-2007, 08:57 AM

Buttons set to increment/decrement a value, do so the moment they are released from a push, it seems.
Is there any way to set up these buttons so they operate on the "leading edge", perhaps with 'holding the button down' increasing the target's value by the opinion after a specified number of timer runs? Not a necessity for me, but it's a neat functionality to have.

**bratnetwork** · 11-24-2007, 06:34 PM

I'm loving this new software more and more and I haven't even gotten nearly as far into as it seems h3rk has.

An issue I ran into is when I change the font_size of a button it doesn't make any difference; it always stays the same size visually when i launch the exe.

Also is there a way to make button fonts bold?

**Arrow** · 11-27-2007, 02:32 PM

2k1, I need a nudge in the right direction. I need to make certain relays fire at certain points in a song. I figure I will just sync the start of the song playing with a timer in the skin. I need to be able to program the triggers to the millisecond so that they are in sync with the song. How can I do this in the new skin setup? In case you haven't seen it, this is what I'm trying to do: Christmas Car Project

**thekl0wn** · 11-27-2007, 03:00 PM

I've gotta get my project up-and-rolling, that way I can start playing with one of these! I really like the look of this!

**2k1Toaster** · 11-27-2007, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Arrow

2k1, I need a nudge in the right direction. I need to make certain relays fire at certain points in a song. I figure I will just sync the start of the song playing with a timer in the skin. I need to be able to program the triggers to the millisecond so that they are in sync with the song. How can I do this in the new skin setup? In case you haven't seen it, this is what I'm trying to do: Christmas Car Project

That is one heck of a car!

The FB's output timing resolution is not in the 1ms range. If you disable the inputs, you can probably get it down to 30ms or 35ms, but the CPU/USB will be taxed.

I think the easiest would be to use a high/low pass filter for the basic thumping and use the FB for timed major flashing. As of now, the V2 software is your best bet as animations are not yet supported with the V3 Beta.

Originally Posted by thekl0wn

I've gotta get my project up-and-rolling, that way I can start playing with one of these! I really like the look of this!

It's a good little board!

**thekl0wn** · 11-27-2007, 05:39 PM

Depending on the API calling, would it not be a "somewhat" easy task to write your own app for this special purpose task? I'm guessing Purdue, which would lead me to think that you're some form of a science major and may have exposure to some form of programming?

I like the idea of the bandpass crossover network for the "beat", but as for scripting for a saved song... I could think of a few generic ways to accomplish this, but I'm not sure how well these ideas would cross over for anything else...

I'm guessing the driver for the FB uses some form of a .dll with get/set commands to/from the board, and then checks/sets in a big DO..WHILE TRUE loop? I also know this is a thread on the new look of the control app, but couldn't this all be accomplished in a matter of minutes with just about any language with easy API calls? I'm thinking possibly a maintenance app to set his "big" events, and then an player app that he could select from a list what to play, and load the event times into variables, start playback, and enable a timer?

Or am I in left field at a hockey game?