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    If I could only get this thing to work....

    Just bought the fusion brain. Installed .net 2.0. Installed hardware drivers 2.0. Grabbed 2.2.1 for Vista and XP. Grabbed the latest skin designer.

    The driver is Da Fusion Brain
    Driver Date: 8/29/2007
    Driver Version 1.0.0.0

    In the skin designer, my brain is displayed when I try to create a new skin. When I click the 'start blinking' option. The program hangs. Ok, after restart, I just just select my brain.
    When I try to add a analog input, I get an assertion failure when I click the add button from the input configuration dialog box.

    When I try to run the Fusion Control Center, I get the following message:
    "There are no Fusion Brain product connected to the computer that are setup in your skin file. ........#SETDEVICEINSTANCE#...."

    From previous forum messages, I tried to specify the ID by configuring that setdeviceinstance file in the skin file. But that field does not exist in the file!

    It there a tutorial project out there? Is there some way to test this card independent of the Fusion Center software?

    Help anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fermentation View Post
    In the skin designer, my brain is displayed when I try to create a new skin. When I click the 'start blinking' option. The program hangs. Ok, after restart, I just just select my brain.
    When I try to add a analog input, I get an assertion failure when I click the add button from the input configuration dialog box.

    When I try to run the Fusion Control Center, I get the following message:
    "There are no Fusion Brain product connected to the computer that are setup in your skin file. ........#SETDEVICEINSTANCE#...."
    The skin designer is very finnicky. You must specify all parameters correctly. Unfortunately right now it is hard to know what each parameter is. The skin file needs a "#SETDEVICEINSTANCE#" filed in the Main section (between ">>MAIN" and the first "<<END" in the skin file.

    Quote Originally Posted by fermentation View Post
    From previous forum messages, I tried to specify the ID by configuring that setdeviceinstance file in the skin file. But that field does not exist in the file!
    You may need to add that field. Depending on what version of the skin file you are using and what version of the program you are using, you may just need to add it. Go to device manager, right click on the Fusion Brain, properties. Then Go to driver information, and choose "device instance" or "hardware ID" from the dropdown (depends on XP or Vista) and you should see something like "USB/vid_04d&pid_000c/gf324f23423". Copy that into the skin file as "#SETDEVICEINSTANCE#USB/vid_04d&pid_000c/gf324f23423|MainBrain".

    Quote Originally Posted by fermentation View Post
    It there a tutorial project out there? Is there some way to test this card independent of the Fusion Center software?

    Help anyone?
    Here is the main skin designer tutorial: http://www.fusioncontrolcentre.com/F...php?tutorial=3

    If the drivers installed correctly, then it should be working just fine. If you are using XP then you can download the old version 1 (Non-Dynamic) version and it should work. This old version is not Vista compatible: http://www.fusioncontrolcentre.com/F...&submit+8.y=15
    Fusion Brain Version 6 Released!
    1.9in x 2.9in -- 47mm x 73mm
    30 Digital Outputs -- Directly drive a relay
    15 Analogue Inputs -- Read sensors like temperature, light, distance, acceleration, and more
    Buy now in the MP3Car.com Store

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    So you had some luck getting the power light to blink? I would have been very pleased to just get that to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fermentation View Post
    So you had some luck getting the power light to blink? I would have been very pleased to just get that to work.
    Power lights? The power light (blue) should not blink...

    The output lights should blink. Are you using XP or Vista?

    And when you click the add brain, there is 1 that shows up correct? If so, then the Brain works.

    Out of curiosity, do you have a little jumper near the bottom of board (by the LED)? There should be one included when you buy it. Without that jumper no output lights will light up.
    Fusion Brain Version 6 Released!
    1.9in x 2.9in -- 47mm x 73mm
    30 Digital Outputs -- Directly drive a relay
    15 Analogue Inputs -- Read sensors like temperature, light, distance, acceleration, and more
    Buy now in the MP3Car.com Store

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    I am running XP. There is a jumper in place closest to the power light.

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    Using the non-dynamic version, does the program give any indication that it is connected to a Brain? When I click the digital output buttons, should I see lights change? Will I need to rollback the hardware driver version to get the old software to work?

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    Ok.. I went back to try the very latest drivers. I opened opened up the new program. I entered the debug console ( click + ctrl + alt + shift + debug, open raw debug ). When I plug in a thermosister into on the analog ports, I get data readings displayed on all of the Analog Inputs visual. Seem to me that this card is busted.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fermentation View Post
    Ok.. I went back to try the very latest drivers. I opened opened up the new program. I entered the debug console ( click + ctrl + alt + shift + debug, open raw debug ). When I plug in a thermosister into on the analog ports, I get data readings displayed on all of the Analog Inputs visual. Seem to me that this card is busted.

    Thoughts?
    Nope that is normal. If you are seeing data, then it works!

    If there is nothing connected to the other port, then it "floats". It is highly suggestive to noise when floating. This is ok because if there is nothing attached you wont be monitor it. As soon as you attach a sensor to the input, it no longer floats, and the noise will go away.

    If you want, you can connect a jumper between the sense line and ground on the Brain, which will effectly get rid of that. But like I said, it doesnt matter because you wont be measuring it!

    And to get the previous non-dynamic version to work, yes you need to install version 1 drivers too. But now that you know it works, we should really concentrate on getting the newer version setup.
    Fusion Brain Version 6 Released!
    1.9in x 2.9in -- 47mm x 73mm
    30 Digital Outputs -- Directly drive a relay
    15 Analogue Inputs -- Read sensors like temperature, light, distance, acceleration, and more
    Buy now in the MP3Car.com Store

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    Are there some schematics available to help me along?

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    schematic for?

    Here is the preliminary manual with what pins are what are the Brain if that is what you mean: http://www.fusioncontrolcentre.com/F...r%20Manual.pdf
    Fusion Brain Version 6 Released!
    1.9in x 2.9in -- 47mm x 73mm
    30 Digital Outputs -- Directly drive a relay
    15 Analogue Inputs -- Read sensors like temperature, light, distance, acceleration, and more
    Buy now in the MP3Car.com Store

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