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    Originally posted by timbo66 View Post
    who can drive and watch TV anyway?
    I can!

    I also can check on my mirrors with even more frequency and entertain conversation with people in all three rows, sometimes even with eye contact. (I also watching tv while I'm typing this too. Actually I leave the tv on when I'm doing other stuff just because.)

    But back on topic, interesting stuff. I would be interested in a separate GPU just to play HD content and maybe visualization stuff. Also some front ends do benefit from extra processing power.

    But given your needs, I don't think it's a must. If the FE you choose depends on flash a lot, I would chose as much cpu power as you can get. Also recording from webcam requires CPU, and if you do that while routing, and displaying fancy graphics, that can tax your cpu.
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    Originally posted by timbo66 View Post
    who can drive and watch TV anyway?
    Originally posted by RipplingHurst View Post
    I can!
    Please tell me that you don't.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by DarquePervert View Post
      Please tell me that you don't.
      Some people genuinely believe they are that good. We can only hope they kill only themselves when (not if) they wreak.
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      • #4
        Why not plan for video playback? Ever been stuck in traffic because of a wreck? Ever found yourself waiting in a parkinglot somewhere for someone/something? Ever found yourself on a long drive with a passenger?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DarquePervert View Post
          Please tell me that you don't.
          I do though, rarely, but I do. No problem with it. It's not like you have to watch it at all time to get it. I chose it for the programming where what you hear is more important, in the end t's no different than visualizations really. As Esquire puts it:

          In our test-drive, we managed to pull in everything from HBO to ESPN on the avenues of New York City. When we cut down side streets, however, the skyscrapers sometimes blocked out the signal. Granted, watching TV from the driver's seat while the car's moving is, strictly speaking, illegal. But if you're going to do it, here's how.

          Safe Rides

          Law & Order: Every courtroom looks the same. No need to watch.

          The West Wing: Heavy on dialogue and light on eye candy.

          CNN: We think you can probably resist the awesome temptation to focus on Aaron Brown's face.

          Fender Benders

          Monday Night Football: Dangerous, thanks to Lisa Guerrero, the Christina Aguilera of sportscasting.

          Anything on Fox with the word temptation or paradise in the title.

          The Lyon's Den: This show is, well, a car wreck.
          Read more: http://www.esquire.com/features/ESQ1...#ixzz13fQ0vJRh

          BTW, just because it's illegal in America doesn't mean it's dangerous, as we all know re. substance and underage drinking. Everywhere in the world, specially countries with DVB-T reception, you can do it legally.

          Originally posted by malcom2073 View Post
          We can only hope they kill only themselves when (not if) they wreak.
          Holy self-righteousness Batman, we have a winner! Some people love their high horse so much, they can't stop having an erection...in your case it's showing and it's ugly, please stop.



          Originally posted by 96300NAZ View Post
          Why not plan for video playback? Ever been stuck in traffic because of a wreck? Ever found yourself waiting in a parkinglot somewhere for someone/something? Ever found yourself on a long drive with a passenger?
          Exactly. Don't let the puritans rule the world though.
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          • #6
            <sigh> Well this thread is probably now a lost cause.

            I genuinely try NOT to judge people or flame them publicly, but in this case I must. It is FOOLISH and RECKLESS and IRRESPONSIBLE to drive and watch ANY kind of TV. You are risking your life and - much more importantly - the lives of people around you. Don't even try and justify it. Just think about what it will feel like explaining to a jury someday about why it was OK to watch Law and Order and how it's not your fault you killed that kid.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 96300NAZ View Post
              Why not plan for video playback? Ever been stuck in traffic because of a wreck? Ever found yourself waiting in a parkinglot somewhere for someone/something? Ever found yourself on a long drive with a passenger?
              I don't think anyone here is saying that you should not plan for video playback.
              Passengers watching videos is just fine.
              There is still the potential for the driver to be distracted, but it is the passenger(s) with focus on the screen.

              Originally posted by RipplingHurst View Post
              I do though, rarely, but I do. No problem with it. It's not like you have to watch it at all time to get it. I chose it for the programming where what you hear is more important, in the end t's no different than visualizations really. As Esquire puts it:
              Driving safety tips from Esquire. Now there's a good idea.



              BTW, just because it's illegal in America doesn't mean it's dangerous, as we all know re. substance and underage drinking. Everywhere in the world, specially countries with DVB-T reception, you can do it legally.
              It's perfectly legal for me to smash myself in the head with a hammer, too. That doesn't make it safe.
              Or smart.


              Exactly. Don't let the puritans rule the world though.
              Your arguments are pointless.
              When you are driving on a public road, your safety is not the only concern. There are other drivers, pedestrians, animals and peoples' property that you have to concern yourself with.

              Whether you choose to believe and/or accept it or not, this is a question of public safety.
              Just like consuming alcohol and driving.
              Just like texting and driving.
              Just like any other act which takes a significant amount of focus away from the ability to pilot your vehicle: You shouldn't do it in the name of safety.

              Now, if you choose to ignore the laws and all the safety recommendations you've heard ad infinitum, that is your business.
              Don't expect any condolences after you ruin someone's life because you thought you were Superman.
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              • #8
                You guys crack me up with all the hysteria..."hey, don't do this, cos's if you do you'll crash a school bus full of innocent poor children and they're all gonna die".

                I don't see how yelling can be productive too. Respectful disagreement is a worthy goal...

                So my point still stands. I don't think tv is an all hypnotizing attention grabbing thing that will lead us to hell. I actually watch videoclips more, but the way you guys react to it, videoclips are equally dangerous. I wonder if you guys are going to attack the guy who made the youtube plugin next?

                Oh yeah, visualizations (sp. the mesmerizing Milkdrop) are equally dangerous for children..
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                • #9
                  Yeah, I guess that's crazy -- there's just no way at all that watching TV while driving could cause you to crash into another car or a schoolbus and kill someone. No way at all. It's totally safe, huh?

                  So your TV is NOT an all hypnotizing attention grabbing thing? Wow, you must have a different TV than I have.

                  Yes, videoclips are equally bad - while driving

                  Yes, YouTube should not be watched - while driving

                  Dare I suggest that while driving, interaction with a CarPC should be a limited as possible? Like choose a playlist, advance a track, adjust the volume, zoom in on your GPS, etc. Make it brief and don't forget you're driving. Is that crazy-talk?

                  I'm not dictating rules or being overly cautious. These things are (or should be) self-evident. Like not climbing on the roof of your house to adjust the antenna during a thunderstorm, not smoking a cigarette while you hook up the gas to your new dryer, and not smashing bullets with a hammer for fun.

                  Like I said, this should be self-evident. I can't actually believe I am debating it.

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                  • #10
                    Afraid I don't really have much of an opinion on the actual original topic, but I do have to side in principle with RipplingHurst on this one.

                    The safety-nazi's seemingly are all that's left in this country, safety features, and information are always a good thing, but making everything madatory or passing laws because a few are actively watching law and order on their carpc while driving on main st, or writing a Victor Hugo style novel to their boy-toy in text on their phone is just as insane.

                    I don't see the issue unless your truly paying attention to it while actively driving. I haven't done so, but I have texted while stuck at a stop in rush hour traffic. Quick! Burn me at the stake now!

                    I think we might just have the FBI checking homes in a few years to issue fines to those who smoke in bed; perhaps a small jail term for those daring to smoke inside if they have a pet, as it's bad for the animal and considered abuse. We're just about there now..
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                    • #11
                      @rippling When you lose a loved one to some driver that wasn't paying attention you will most likely change your argument. If you don't know how it feels then you can't argue. There is no excuse for killing people because of distracted driving. And it may not be YOU that is distracted but if we don't put laws in place to TRY to prevent things like this than that makes it OK and then you have more and more people who drive distracted.

                      It is the theory that just because you can do it, doesn't make it ok. Moreover, if the stakes are as high as death, then even 1 person drives distracted and kills someone, that is 1 life too many.

                      IMO

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                      • #12
                        Heh. Look I'm against killing innocent children too. And anybody's loved ones. Let's stop talking about that? What do you want me to reply, about running over a bank robber who just crossed the street, who just shot some girl's favorite teddy bear in her hands just for fun?



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                        Our only difference of opinion rest on how distracting tv is. That's the only meaningful topic of discussion. It's almost like you want me to cry and feel remorseful, but what is this, the View or Oprah?

                        All the rest is just BS to make you guys look good and confortable. There's nothing I can do really, I'm just going to ignore sad stories as distracting fallacy - there's a name for it it's called appeal to pity. It's beside the point.


                        I contend however that SOME tv shows are more boring and MUCH less distracting than a videoclips with hot girls, funny youtube clips or awesome new visualizations displaying. Even reading an email is more dangerous, but apparently the safe police is not concerned with that, I don't know why - Timbo66 is consistent banning everything though, and I respect that.


                        I state that dial one phone number, texting, putting lipstick is MUCH more distracting then watching live weather reports on your car, or bloomberg - of course not Giants vs. Rangers. I would never watch that while driving, not even sport reports.


                        Responsible people (hey me too! can I play?) can chose the tv programming they find is safe for using while driving. Some tv programs are just pundits talking. And talking. You can just glance and get the picture if that. You don't even have to manipulate any buttons, like many other actions in the car. Driving an unfamiliar rental car can be WAY more distracting (adjusting AC changing stations, etc.).


                        I admit this is not for everybody. Some people feel guilty just at the thought. We call those puritans: it's better not do it, if it can be viewed as wrong by most. Because we care.
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                        • #13
                          I will say that I am guilty of this as well. I do like to listen to some of my favorite shows in the car. I guess it could be considered "watching tv" even though my eyes don't leave the road. It's no different to me than listening to music or radio talk shows. I still glance at my CarPC screen with the same frequency I do when audio-only is playing.

                          I did however install a screen switch for a while, to have the ability to switch it off at night while driving. That is a distraction to me no matter what is on the screen.

                          I'm sure there are a lot of people that can watch TV and drive just as safely, those people that can multitask without issue. The laws however are created to control the weakest man. The weakest man in this case being the man that wouldn't be able to peel his eyes off the screen to swerve and miss that semi he's headed straight for.
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                          • #14
                            I remember as a kid while hiding out at my friends house when he wasn't supposed to have friends over, we'd wait until his older sister was watching TV. Then I'd walk right past her knowing she was too distracted to notice that I wasn't supposed to be there and thus get us both in big trouble. I reproduced this on my own family as well. I could pretty much do anything I wanted so long as I didn't do anything to interrupt TV viewing.

                            The human conscience brain (despite what some women claim) is really a single tasking processor. Some people can context switch really quick, but most people pay high penalties in the form of concentration. Most of the time, I'd say driving requires only light concentration. However, times when more concentration is required is rarely predictable. I'd hate to be in another context (ie, looking down at the screen) when such a thing occurs.

                            Just because you think you can do it and still be safe, doesn't really mean you are safe. I'm willing to bet most people who do that text-and-drive thing don't get into wrecks (probably because of the low ratio of hazards), but that doesn't make it safe.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tidder View Post
                              I still glance at my CarPC screen with the same frequency I do when audio-only is playing.
                              Yep, same here.


                              I did however install a screen switch for a while, to have the ability to switch it off at night while driving. That is a distraction to me no matter what is on the screen.
                              Good idea.

                              I'm sure there are a lot of people that can watch TV and drive just as safely, those people that can multitask without issue.
                              Yes, its no big deal. You can't watch anything that you have to actually watch, like sports or anything too visual. If you can watch for the audio content only, like politics, talk shows, or general punditry, then I say what's the big deal? It's not like you can tune on the radio and the same content will be there because it won't.
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