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    I purchased a used laptop of ebay and the guy I bought it from did not reformat the harddrive, but there is a Novell Login screen that I cannot get past. I contacted him about it and he says he doesn't know either of the passcodes. I tried to reboot in safe mode, but then evidently there is a windows password. I am stuck. I was going to use the laptop as a backup carputer. Please help
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  • #2
    Novell sucks.... We're FINALLY getting rid of it at work. It had it's time, but has become nothing more than an inconvenience.

    Did the guy give you the original driver disks? If yes, format and reinstall.
    If no, search online and d/l all of the drivers. Make sure you get ALL of them. Then format.
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    • #3
      Oi! You heathen!! Novell certainly does not suck. It does take more than a drunk monkey to administer it (unlike M$ systems) though. I had to reboot by novell servers once a year at the MOST for patching and whatnot. Now that we are on AD, I have to patch and of course reboot every other week! Call it job security if you want, but I call it a crappy server OS.

      Anyway ... Shelbrian ... you will need to make sure the 'Workstation Only' checkbox is checked. This will bypass the Novell Login and allow you to log in with your Windows username and password.

      Of course you'll still need the windows login information. Try Administrator with a blank password. You'd be surprised how many people do that.

      If the guy you bought it from doesn't know what the password is it sounds to me like it's stolen.

      Anyway, there are a number of different programs available to reset windows passwords, search google.

      Your best bet will be to reload it from scratch though.
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      • #4
        No luck using those methods...the laptop only came with a floppy drive, not the CD drive, so I guess I am SOL because I only have OEM Dell CD that came from my main pc.
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        • #5
          sounds like somebody got a hot laptop.

          search google ... the windows password crack disk i'm thinking of comes in a floppy version and a cd version ... and it's free. I've used it many times.
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          • #6
            hmmm...I wonder why the seller is no longer a registered user...
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            • #7
              ur lucky its in your hands tho!

              I just hope the laptopt doesnt have some of that anti-robber software that stays in the bios or whatnot and sends your position/ip whatever whenever u connect to the net!
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              • #8
                Doesn't matter much now. He has it, can't return it... The worst the cops would do (assuming it's stolen, and it's traced) is confiscuate it - ya, shelbrain would be out the bucks, but he's innocent of any wrongdoing.

                And Novell sucks because it's an ADDITIONAL logon step. Windows must authenticate, that's 10sec minimum, as well as Novell, another 10 sec's. As a user, (my admin days are over) having to wait to use my computer is a nusance. Oh, and don't forget the often experienced Windows-Novell password sync problems! God forbid something should get screwed up while I change my password (every 3 months), then I'm forced to deal with logging in TWICE!

                Now, I must admit, it's not that I'm necesarily against Novell. I'm against the incompatibilities between Windoze and Novell. At one time, they were happy bedfellows. Nowadays, they don't play well together.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PatO
                  Doesn't matter much now. He has it, can't return it... The worst the cops would do (assuming it's stolen, and it's traced) is confiscuate it - ya, shelbrain would be out the bucks, but he's innocent of any wrongdoing.
                  Ever heard of theft by recieving?

                  Why not use a dos bood disk in the floppy drive and format that way? bypass windows altogether
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                  • #10
                    Get hold of a copy of Winternals Emergency Boot Disk, this will allow you to access the hard drive by booting from CD-ROM and should also allow you to change the administrators password. Alternatively, I'd take the drive out of the laptop, connect it to an adapter and format in a desktop.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by UK_MP3Car
                      Get hold of a copy of Winternals Emergency Boot Disk, this will allow you to access the hard drive by booting from CD-ROM and should also allow you to change the administrators password. Alternatively, I'd take the drive out of the laptop, connect it to an adapter and format in a desktop.

                      if u read his post u would notice he has no cd-rom drive



                      as alternative tho, you may want to check the laptop to see if the floppy drive is hot-swappable with another drive(my gateway laptop is like that) and if so or for a cd-rom drive for it

                      or you could always use an external cd-rom or external hard drive to get started assuming the bios can initilize the drive for you from a DOS boot disk(some bios support this some dont)
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                      • #12
                        sounds like he doesn't have an xp disk either
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PatO
                          And Novell sucks because it's an ADDITIONAL logon step. Windows must authenticate, that's 10sec minimum, as well as Novell, another 10 sec's. As a user, (my admin days are over) having to wait to use my computer is a nusance. Oh, and don't forget the often experienced Windows-Novell password sync problems! God forbid something should get screwed up while I change my password (every 3 months), then I'm forced to deal with logging in TWICE!

                          Now, I must admit, it's not that I'm necesarily against Novell. I'm against the incompatibilities between Windoze and Novell. At one time, they were happy bedfellows. Nowadays, they don't play well together.
                          a properly functioning novell system should take less than 2 secs to authenticate, but i digress.

                          most of what you say here is true, but it's a result of users being MORONS, not novell sucking. M$ wants people to use a 100% M$ system, and since they control their OS, Novell has been fighting a loosing game for a number of years.

                          That's why they've bought suse and have been pushing Linux integration so hard lately.
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                          • #14
                            I reformatted the drive and all is good...
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                            Current Status: Installed in Vehicle/Testing 75%

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                            • #15
                              With the latest novell client(and possibly ZFD) you can tell the "Windows" logon to show but novell to authenticate in the backround.

                              we have that option here at work, i cant remember if there is anything special that needs to be done on the server side, but the option is out there..


                              now, i am M$ guy, but IMO novell has its upsides. EDirectory is mature and works very well. not many patches and the servers are very stable(or in my experiances). AD is Very nice as well, and it is awsome that it makes some of the administration tasks easyer by central managment for windows servers and workstations(things that novell has done for a while yes). also, Novell SHINES with Zenworks for desktops. that makes my job SOOO much easyer.

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