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  • Torture - How do you feel about it

    I think you should be able to torture if the info is
    very important - like to save lives

    And I think torture is ok as long as it does not do perminit
    damage to the body or mind

    I know its a hot topic - but keep it nice


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    I will tell you a story - little side track, but related

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    I was about 18 or 19 - went over to a friends house
    he was a goofy kid that had lots of cool stuff - thats
    why we hung out with him, he was a spoiled brat, and
    a little mental, I lost my watch over there - it was a divers
    watch a good one, good down to 500 meters ect ect

    I get a call the next day - I found your watch, come over.
    I did not want to, but did, big mistake

    I get there and 4 of 5 of my friends are there - there
    playing video games - I get my watch and plan on leaving
    - the kid that lives there grabs a pellet gun checks that it is empty
    and points it at people and fires - ****ing every one off
    I grab a pellet gun check it, its empty, I tell him I am going to shoot
    him in the *** if he Dont stop that sh_t, he keeps at it - so I shoot
    at his *** , big mistake - it just seams to make him more annoying
    and he shoots at more people, he comes up to me at puts the pellet
    gun about 2 foot from my face - It was like slow mo, I saw his finger
    start to pull the trigger and turned my head to flinch, it fired, I saw
    blood shoot out of my head and herd a weird tone sound in my ears
    - I yelled out "He just shot me - this mother fu_ker just shot me"
    every one freaked - I had a hole in my head and blood on me

    So I go to the "CHEAP" hospital - they x-ray me and see its not in my
    brain - but it went under my scalp and traveled a little bit

    They stick metal pins in my scalp - I had no pain killers - to help locate
    the pellet - after 10 or so pins they gave up - they told me that they
    dont have any thing to deaden the scalp, if thats a problem I would
    have to go to a hospital, I said no - I thought I was Mister tough guy,

    They start to cut my scalp, I was like "OH SH_T" I told them to stop
    and get a nurse for each arm and leg to hold me, again trying to
    be Mister tough guy, and told them to just do it - it took all of them
    to hold me - they made a 4 inch cut in a "L" shape in my scalp

    It hurt like hell but was over quick - the fun part was just starting,
    they peeled the scalp back and started the search for the pellet
    with metal tools, I could feel the metal scratching my scull
    - I made the mistake of looking in the mirror on the wall
    I could see a vain on my scull, and kept felling that metal
    on my scull - only 20 min of that I was begging and pleading
    with them to stop even crying and yelling - they got a few more
    nurses to help hold me - I was trying to make a deal with them
    telling them I would do any thing - it was just sad

    It took a hour and a half, to find it, the doctor told me that
    he was about to give, up and send me to a hospital, when
    he was stitching me up

    The moral of the story is - little tinny things can make you spill
    the beans - with no real damage

    Latter on I got thinking about it and its ironic - I am half Indian
    and got half scalped

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    is anyone else as confused as me?
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    • #3
      I think hes basically saying that he got tortured in the hospital

      Man if someone shot me like that, Ill ******* ambush the guy and cut his balls off.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Chris31
        I think hes basically saying that he got tortured in the hospital

        Man if someone shot me like that, Ill ******* ambush the guy and cut his balls off.


        But yea - It felt like torture, and I was saying no real harm done
        it just hurt a lot, and if thats all it takes - is it so bad to do that
        to some one you know is a terrorist



        he was like 10 or 12 years old or some thing - I was friends with 2
        brothers, one was 17 and one was 14, the 14 year old was friends
        with the kid that shot me - I was 18 - if I had beat his *** or got
        him in trouble it would have been bad for me legally - I should have
        taken away his pellet gun , and not played along by shooting at him

        - I did get revenge - but thats another story

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        • #5
          My only real problem with it is that even if the guy doesn't know anything, he's gonna tell you what you want to hear just to get you to stop. Thats a proven fact. Torture results in a lot of bad intel. Then you think you know whats going on and you launch a pre-emptive strike and... well... turns out you didn't really know that much after all.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by will1384
            I did get revenge - but thats another story
            Please don't tell us
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            • #7
              The problem is that everyone's all for things like this until they're wrongly accused and on the receiving end..
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              • #8
                Originally posted by muldrick
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                • #9
                  thats a given, nobody wants the death penalty, or to be tortured....and if the system doesnt work as planned....the wrong people get the punishment.

                  even when people are found guilty for many crimes, often times the punishment doesnt match the crime.

                  examples

                  1. I know someone who was a drug dealer. He made over a hundred thousand dollars in a single year selling drugs. He had people underneath of him....dealing drugs. He had an entire apartment dubbed "the drug apartment." One of the people dealing for him turned him in. He got the best lawyer money could by in the area. He served 6 months.

                  2. A friend of mine was present during a murder. He knew if he went to the cops, the people who killed the other person would kill him. He got 10 years.....for "accomplis to murder after the fact"...basically not telling the cops. This was the best his lawyers could pull for him, this was after a plea bargain.

                  3. A friend of his in prison is serving 6 years for possession of 1 once of cocaine. His crime was posession of narcotics with attempt to distribute. This was not his first offence, however it was his first drug offence. His other offences included dwi, shoplifting and something else.

                  the first guy definatly deserves much more then 6 months, after seeing what the other guys went through. also, you know guys at the top in this world know about plenty of murders....and never goto the cops. I assure you, many of our presidents, senators, congressmen, and business men have even commited murders themselves.....and never spent any time behind bars.

                  I don't understand how they can justify, that since Kennedy was president.....driving a car off of a cliff with a girl in it is excusable, or micheal jackson is allowed to touch children. Why can Whittney Houston smoke as much crack as she wants, but some 17 yearold kid gets tried as an adult, and gets the book thrown at him?

                  The system doesnt work.....just hope the system doesnt screw you over that bad.
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                  • #10
                    this administration is torturing me so I want to torture them...

                    to death
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Peoples
                      I assure you, many of our presidents, senators, congressmen, and business men have even commited murders themselves.....and never spent any time behind bars.
                      Great conspiracy theory.... now lets get some more data. You've only given the example of a fat bastard from Massachusetts

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                      • #12
                        Oh yeh... my view on torture:
                        Anything goes except long term bodily hard (i.e. no cutting off fingers, drowning, etc).

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                        • #13
                          You know, it's funny. I am a Marine, long term careerist, generally vote republican (though I am registered Libertarian), conservative socially, politically, and fiscally, and have seen a number of really bad things and people in this world.

                          And I still think toture is WRONG, both from a practical point (the info you get is often given just to make the torture stop, and not necessarily true) and from a moral standpoint. Somethings are just plain wrong: child molestation, rape, cannibalism, Celine Dion music.... and torture falls under that "just plain wrong" part of my book.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rev2
                            Great conspiracy theory.... now lets get some more data. You've only given the example of a fat bastard from Massachusetts
                            chandra levy?
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                            • #15
                              i woulda handed him his balls if i were you lol sheit no1 points a gun at me and shoots it and gets away with it :-P

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