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  • Ultimate Car security or a Mind Game!

    How about this idea...
    Connect a smoke machine to your alarm and if intrusion is detected (let say braking of a window or something) start the smoke machine and have your carPC playing a sounds in the background saying "Intrusion is detected releasing the toxic gas (or even better nerve gas )
    In a matter of a second the whole car feels up with smoke... It’s a mind game that people usually will be afraid to take I recon.
    Well yeah you will still get your window broken but I don’t think anyone would want to stay in that car for a second.
    And if they smart enough to call the caps on you by telling them that this guy is using toxic gas in his car... I don’t think police will charge you with anything as it just a smoke and there is no law against having smoke in your car...
    How about that?
    Fosgate

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  • #2
    actually, back in the early to mid 90s there was a company that had an alarm that once tripped would fill the inside of the car with smoke...

    the idea being that the thief would not be able to see when he/she tried to drive the car away

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    • #3
      Nah, don't lock your car, leave it unlocked, then you don't get a broken window...

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      • #4
        in the words of sgt. Wilson:
        "Stupid boy!"

        I reakon alarms are ok, but i'm still saving up for smash resistant/proof sidewindows, and having the doors delocked, as well

        [ 11-22-2001: Message edited by: Mike Hunt 79 ]
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        • #5
          Well, why not just use real nerve gas? There's gotta' some kind of non-lethal knock out gas available...
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          "If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."

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          • #6
            then little jimmy deciedes to play baseball next to your car, ball hits car breaks window he goes to get it and gets knocked out by gass, then little jimmy's mum comes and sues

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            • #7
              How would he get in in if the door was locked? In theory, Jimmy could climb through the window, but then he is invading your property. In most places (Canada and the US) you are allowed to protect your property using reasonable force. I'm not sure if knockout gas would be considered a trap or not (which is ilegal), so it may vary from state to state and province to province.

              Either way, knockout gas provides no lasting harm, so I Jimmys mom would simply find him sleeping in your car with a broken window. Seems a rather precarious position for both child and parent (parents are responsible for the actions of their children). Perhaps nerve gas is a little strong, so now about N2O? Keep the would-be thief laughing so hard they wouldn't be able to inflict any damage.

              Either way, Jimmy shouldn't be playing baseball around people's cars. If he broke my window, rest assured that his parents would be hearing from me very shortly. Perhaps the real issue with society is lack of wide open spaces for children to play. Inner city children often don't have a grassy park to play in, which translates to them getting into this mischief. If the city council would just step back and take a look at the issues, they could allocate minimal funds to turn vacant lots into small parks. Thus providing the children a safe place to paly. Unfortunately, in todays society, cities are much more concerned with attacking the symptom (crime) than actuallly curing the problem (providing funding where needed, programs for inner city youth, etc.). Our whole society seems to be based around this paradigm, and it is rather unfortunate.
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              Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
              "If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."

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              • #8
                ermm, but little jimmy just happenes to have a rare diesease and is alergic to nerve gas and also will die if he laughs too much :P

                haha okay this is off topic now stuff this

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                • #9
                  Well, then I think Jimmy should be in the hospital. The world is just too funny to be able to live with a disease like that.
                  Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
                  Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
                  "If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."

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                  • #10
                    Too bad there is no such thing as "knockout gas"

                    Why do you think anesthesiologists are one of the highest paid medical specialists?

                    Enough knockout gas to knock out Biff the 250 pound car theif would kill your hypothetical little Jimmy, the innocent baseball playing kid.

                    Maybe you guys should look at more practical things, like a goint net that shoots out of your car and traps the theif. Maybe you could electrify it or something

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                    • #11
                      Guys Guys...

                      As i said its only a mind game you dont need to knock anyone out...
                      It how does people react to some things... What you see and hear is what you believe... thats how it works.
                      Seeing a gas (smoke in this case) filling up the car and having a voice in the backround informing them about the current situation, I recon no-one would dare to stay in that car even for a second!
                      Fosgate

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                      • #12
                        Well, if there is no such thing as knockout gas, and on the theme of "mind games", then how about some horribly smelling sulphur compound?

                        Wait, I'm confused. You said there wasen't a such thing as "knockout gas", but then you compared the amount needed for Biff vs. Jimmy? So have a weight sensor on the drivers seat and a computer to decide how much "knockout gas" to administer. Or use nitrous oxide, helium, CO2 (make them very sleepy), etc...
                        Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
                        Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
                        "If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."

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                        • #13
                          Hey fosgate in a contry like mine were there are multi langauge ... should the system ask the intruder first

                          "Please press one for English press 2 for xyz press 3 for xyz or press 4 for assistance"

                          Comeone Fosgate nothing personal grow up!

                          In my contry if the car door is hacked the car is gone forever

                          Forget about it u shall find it sold in parts within 24hrs! Belive me

                          Mastero

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                          • #14
                            Well first of all im not talking about your country... I guess people there would even know what nerve gas is to start with.
                            And it seems like, from what you saying, having a car in your country is such a big deal that, they steal whatever they can get their hand on.
                            Sorry it doesnt work this way here...
                            I would sugest you learn bit more about Australia and how things are here before telling people to grow up!

                            And its English speaking country so there is no problem with a langauge!
                            Fosgate

                            System Comp V3 - In progress.
                            Low power MB with C7 CPU, DC-DC PSU, car ECU link, USB TV, GPS, 7" TFT, Wireless, Voice.

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