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  • I'm Very Happy

    Those of you who know what the picture below is will know why. I drove to Toronto Saturday night and picked everything up for $530...

    Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
    Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
    "If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."

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    Mmmmmm.... Turbo.

    Ahhhhhh.... Intercooler
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    • #3
      How much boost will it develop?

      I can inderstand your excitement. I have been looking for a suitable turbo unit to retrofit into my Jeep. If anyone has any ideas about where to start for a 4.0L Jeep motor, lemmie know.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Aaron Cake:
        <STRONG>Those of you who know what the picture below is will know why. I drove to Toronto Saturday night and picked everything up for $530...</STRONG>
        Aaron, are you fitting that yourself? or getting the local motor shop to do it? If your doing it yourself some pics would be nice of the installation..... I would be interested to see what is involved....

        should be damm fine with a turboed rotor...
        Project - GAME OVER :(

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        • #5
          Mmmmmm.... Turbo.
          Ahhhhhh.... Intercooler
          My thoughts exactly. I was actually quite giggly the rest of Saturday night.

          How much boost will it develop?
          I can inderstand your excitement. I have been looking for a suitable turbo unit to retrofit into my Jeep. If anyone has any ideas about where to start for a 4.0L Jeep motor, lemmie know.
          Looking at a maximum of 10PSI. Actually, this is the stock turbo and intercooler from the turbo RX-7. The intercooler is good for 10PSI when it is top mounted on the engine, but since I will be front mounting it, 12PSI should be possible. However, that will be really straining the turbo, and not to mention the engine.

          As far as your jeep goes, why not supercharge? I would think that it would suite the engine better.

          Aaron, are you fitting that yourself? or getting the local motor shop to do it? If your doing it yourself some pics would be nice of the installation..... I would be interested to see what is involved....
          I'm fitting it myself, of course! . The turbo bolts up with just a simple adapter, and after that it's just a little piping, and swapping the injectors. And the little things like a boost guage, oil and coolent lines, etc.

          I will be documenting the whole process, because I want to write a how-to for my website.
          Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
          Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
          "If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."

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          • #6
            Aaron, you make it sound all soooo easy..... maybe its time to turbo-charge my swift eh?


            hrm..... maybe not..
            Project - GAME OVER :(

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            • #7
              Originally posted by magnetik:
              <STRONG>Aaron, you make it sound all soooo easy.....
              </STRONG>
              Actually, I have a feeling that it is rather easy....

              -remove stock exhaust manifold
              -bolt up adapter and turbo manifold
              -attach turbo
              -have exhaust shop make a downpipe, weld to my aftermarket cat
              -tap into heater line for coolent, return line to other heater line/other hose
              -tap into oil cooler line for oil supply/return
              -install intercooler (either in front or behind rad, haven't decided yet)
              -measure air pipes and have exhaust shop mandrel bend stainless tubing
              -connect turbo to intercooler
              -remove upper intake manifold, swap secondary injectors for larger units, install higher pressure fuel regulator
              -reinstall upper intake
              -install boost guage (run tube from intake to guage on dash)
              -connect intercooler output to intake, check clearance
              -decider where to put blow off valve, cut hole in intake pipe, weld in valve

              -start car, warm up, FLOOR IT!

              See, couldn't be easier...

              maybe its time to turbo-charge my swift eh?
              Didn't they make a turbo Swift? If so, then it can't be that hard...

              [ 09-26-2001: Message edited by: Aaron Cake ]
              Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
              Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
              "If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Aaron Cake:
                <STRONG>Didn't they make a turbo Swift? If so, then it can't be that hard...</STRONG>
                they may have...... GTI swifts are fuel injected 16Valve standard, but not turboed. I have seen swifts that have been turboed, but im sure they were fuel injected as well.

                A better mod for myself (if i was going to) would be to install a recoed GTI engine.....
                Project - GAME OVER :(

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                • #9
                  Aaron, dont forget that the computer you have in the car is not for turbo engines, you will need to change your computer to the RX7 Turbo one or just get another aftermarket unit. Its not going to be cheap though.
                  After installing the turbo your fuel/air mapping changes and your current ECU wouldnt know how to handle it.
                  Engine might run but at high revs it will be really lean.
                  Changing the injectors might help a bit but they wont gona do much as you ECU wouldnt control them properly.
                  There are ways you can do to correct this but i guess it would be easier to get another ECU.
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                  • #10
                    Yeah, I'm aware of the ECU problems. However, raising the fuel pressure and swapping out the secondary injectors basically cures the problem. There are supercharged NA RX-7s running 10PSI of boost on stock computers, with only a higher fuel pressure and larger injectors. A boost sensitive pressure regulator will also go a long way.

                    Believe me, detonation is foremost on my mind. It't the quickest way to kill a rotary engine besides overheating.

                    If I am feeling creative, I may add two extra injectors to the upper intake, and make a BasicSTAMP based controller to run them off of the boost sensor....Sort of a cheap Super AFC or the like...
                    Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
                    Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
                    "If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."

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                    • #11
                      Im no professional when it comes to turbos intercoolers, i do know i want one on my VL Commodore tho (nissan RB30 engine), But mounting the intercooler behind the radiator sounds irish.

                      Wouldn't this mean that it would be getting all the hot air from your engines coolant system through it, it mite cool it a little bit, but not too much, especially on a stinking hot summers day.

                      Just my views
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                      • #12
                        There are a lot of cars with intercoolers mounted behind the rad. Off hand, the 3rd gen RX-7 is set up that way. Mounting it in front is probably better, but then I would have to deal with putting pipe through the rad supports, and just generally dealing with more bends. Even if the intercooler is behind the rad, the temperature drop accross it will be significant.
                        Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
                        Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
                        "If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."

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                        • #13
                          i spose you cant sink the radiator back into the car towards the engine, making a bit more room for the intercooler??
                          Project - GAME OVER :(

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                          • #14
                            It's not really room I'm worried about, it's the problem of shaping the pipe, and cutting holes in the car. I would like to avoid cutting holes in stuff because it can compromise the structure. And since I don't have a mandrel bender, I will have to have a local exhaust shop do it. This means that things have to be kept simple. Easiest thing to do would be to mount it behind the rad. It would only require a few simple bends in the piping, and should be nearly as efficient.
                            Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
                            Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
                            "If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."

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                            • #15
                              My truck's intercooler is in front of the radiator...and it is BIG.
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