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  • 2008 Mustang GT/CS carpc install

    I'm getting close to where I want this to be install wise, minus a few things, but this is what I have so far:

    This is replacing a Shaker 1000 stock headunit:

    Crutchfield:
    PAC 127C2R-FRD1 Ford Radio Replace Interface
    Ford F150 Pickup Kit 2004-Up E, DD (in dash reciever kit)

    Newegg:
    Intel X25-M SSDSA2MH080G1 80GB SATA MLC Internal Solid state disk (SSD)
    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor

    mp3car:
    Intel DG45FC Mini-ITX motherboard
    Double Din Bolt in Kit with the 7" 629 Lilliput Touchscreen
    M4-ATX 250W Intelligent DC-DC PSU
    ElmScan 5 Bluetooth OBD-II Scan Tool 422000


    The actual LCD backend will need some modification to work with the motherboard as you can see from the pictures. And the PSU I will mount on the bottom of the bolt-in kit with stand-offs.

    My ultimate goal with this is to have a carpc that will pretty much be stock looking in appearance but to have the best performance and options as truely possible in this car without making any alterations that can not be undone.

    The questions I have here are:
    1. Anyone with expertise with this bolt-in, is there a drop in, or mountable shelf I can place inside the bolt-in kit to house the rest of the LCD backend parts? And extenders I can purchase for the connectors?

    2. Tapping into the existing satellite radio/FM antenna:
    a. Can the sirrus stock antenna that's installed in the rear be used as the
    GPS antenna?
    b. Can the FM antenna be replaced with a wireless model from
    somewhere to be then plugged in later to a wireless router with say
    openwrt installed on it?

    3. Direct output to speakers using adapters, is the sound going to suck with no amp for the 4 speakers? Or is it driven ok with the factory amps in the kickpanels?


    Any helpful/insightful info appreciated, I'm at a standstill until I can resolve the inlaying shelf issue and extending the lilliput 629's connection interfaces to reach where that would mount on the inlaying shelf.

    EDIT: Best I could find so far is a replacement for the one cable, longest I could find was 10 inch, only 3 better than the stock. Meh. http://www.molex.com/molex/products/...cts&Lang=en-US

    Ok, some good info on what will be needed here and here as the "1000" is actually 500watt RMS, the sub in the rear has an independent amp, as do the doorpanel subs, but the other 4 are driven via the headunit, which will need a suitable replacement. I have a 400 RMS Jensen lying around, but that means more f'n wiring...meh.
    Wayne
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    2008 Ford Mustang GT/CS CARPC(99%)
    Software: Ride/Road-Runner, Digital FX skin 5.x, iGuidance 2011, GPSgate on Win7 64bit

  • #2
    Nice, can't wait to see it installed.

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    • #3
      ok, yet more research...

      http://www.mouser.com/Search/Product...538-21020-0438

      That according to another post/thread is the one ribbon, assuming the specs are correct I just need to find a 14' or better in length instead of the default 7'.

      Then figure out what that other ribbon cable is, I don't think it can be removed easily as it's the actual touch interface ribbon cable. I think. Oi.
      2008 Ford Mustang GT/CS CARPC(99%)
      Software: Ride/Road-Runner, Digital FX skin 5.x, iGuidance 2011, GPSgate on Win7 64bit

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      • #4
        Looking good Wayne, also looking forward to working with you on this project!
        Build Things, it keeps your brain busy.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by blk02si View Post
          Looking good Wayne, also looking forward to working with you on this project!
          Took me quite some time to get back to this. But I finally got it in the dash. I ultimately had to replace the motherboard with a Zotac 9300 and make an ad-hoc VGA cable as the 90 degree angle adapter was just taking up too much to fit.

          I am also going to ultimately replace the M4-atx PSU as I think I have an older firmware revision, and it's not working right at all for power-up/shutdown via the pins. Ordered an Opus 360W Inteligent Vehicle DC-DC Power Supply (DCX6.360) to replace it.

          The picture shows the final unit installed in the dash. And the single modification I did, which was to use a SPSW momentary switch in parallel with the PSU pins to control the power button switch connectors on the motherboard. Pained me to do it, but necessary, and a relatively cheap plastic piece to replace down the road if needed.
          Attached Files
          2008 Ford Mustang GT/CS CARPC(99%)
          Software: Ride/Road-Runner, Digital FX skin 5.x, iGuidance 2011, GPSgate on Win7 64bit

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          • #6
            Looks great Wayne!! I'm having flashbacks from my mustang PC! Glad to see you have it installed and working good, looks like you ended up with windows OS.

            -Joe
            Build Things, it keeps your brain busy.

            AutoPC v1 (Retired) - AutoPC v2 (in progress) - www.shocknet.us

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            • #7
              Originally posted by blk02si View Post
              Looks great Wayne!! I'm having flashbacks from my mustang PC! Glad to see you have it installed and working good, looks like you ended up with windows OS.

              -Joe
              Yeah, I still don't have a lot of inclination to mess with it at that level right now. Just takes about 3-6x's longer to set things up and get everything running. I just wanted it installed and done for now so I didn't bother with a Debian installation yet. Just Windows XP pro for now with the older copy of Ride/Road runner from April flashing me it's nag screen when I start it up. =)
              2008 Ford Mustang GT/CS CARPC(99%)
              Software: Ride/Road-Runner, Digital FX skin 5.x, iGuidance 2011, GPSgate on Win7 64bit

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              • #8
                What are you using to power the speakers?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by justchat_1 View Post
                  What are you using to power the speakers?
                  I had the local audio shop here install my old kenwood amp, run bypassed wiring to the speakers. I actually tried to explain to them what I wished to do, shame I didn't have a camera handy for the expressions. They weren't that sharp to start with from what I noted, and this is still a completely foreign concept to most to be fair.

                  They still didn't get it fully correct, the subwoofer isn't working as far as I can tell, but the 6 speakers are, after I made the RCA to mini-plug adapters for the pre-ins. I had to undo a crapload of electrical-taped macguvyer'd mess they did in spots. I should have just done most of the car specific things myself. But I'm getting too old for this **** in 90 degree weather with no garage.

                  I still need a USB wireless adapter for it. Debating how to do this in my head. I'd like draft-n connectivity. However, short of stealing the 3 connector antenna's from a laptop and ripping apart a new usb device with no guarantee it will have workable soldered contact points; I'm unsure of a suitable solution.

                  I'll have to look closer later at the 8pin factory out and how they have the adapter set up to try and lock down what's wrong with that aspect of the setup (subwoofer).
                  2008 Ford Mustang GT/CS CARPC(99%)
                  Software: Ride/Road-Runner, Digital FX skin 5.x, iGuidance 2011, GPSgate on Win7 64bit

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wayne613 View Post
                    I had the local audio shop here install my old kenwood amp, run bypassed wiring to the speakers. I actually tried to explain to them what I wished to do, shame I didn't have a camera handy for the expressions. They weren't that sharp to start with from what I noted, and this is still a completely foreign concept to most to be fair.

                    They still didn't get it fully correct, the subwoofer isn't working as far as I can tell, but the 6 speakers are, after I made the RCA to mini-plug adapters for the pre-ins. I had to undo a crapload of electrical-taped macguvyer'd mess they did in spots. I should have just done most of the car specific things myself. But I'm getting too old for this **** in 90 degree weather with no garage.

                    I still need a USB wireless adapter for it. Debating how to do this in my head. I'd like draft-n connectivity. However, short of stealing the 3 connector antenna's from a laptop and ripping apart a new usb device with no guarantee it will have workable soldered contact points; I'm unsure of a suitable solution.

                    I'll have to look closer later at the 8pin factory out and how they have the adapter set up to try and lock down what's wrong with that aspect of the setup (subwoofer).
                    Well the sub power and the door sub power are the same connector. Theres a 4 pin connector on the shaker units, one wire is door subs, one wire is shielding on the 500's or the rear sub on the 1000's. The other two wires are your left and right sub channel. Your gonna need to make sure the turn ons for the factory subs are getting +5V not the full 12-13.8v vehicle power or you'll get a really bad pop when you power things up.

                    I did the work on my GT and I gotta say as well as ford did with giving you room to upgrade (they have a special grommet in the firewall for a sub power wire) its an absolute ***** to run wires through the interior.

                    As for your usb wifi - im pretty sure proxim wireless has cards with pigtail connectors. At least on their hobbyist versions.
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                    • #11
                      Nice and clean install.

                      I just finished my CarPC install in mine a few weeks prior. One suggestion though is paint the front frame piece black so it blends in better with the dash. Anothe option if you wanted a slot load DVD is moving the AC controls down. I plan on getting a 16:9 display so I can do the same. A bit of hacking is required on the support piece but not too much. See my thread below.

                      http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/show...-solution.html

                      Also since you have a S197 additionally you may be interested in replacing the blank with the mycolor switches and cluster. Checkout the following if you don't have the mycolor harness

                      http://www.mustangcollective.com/showthread.php?t=24775

                      And finally if you want to replace all the LEDs in your car you can look at the following. The only difference is now if you want blue LEDs you can buy the 2010 window and door lock switches since they are interchangable

                      http://www.mustangcollective.com/showthread.php?t=15391
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                      2006 Mustang with indash CarPC (Retired)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Deric View Post
                        Nice and clean install.

                        I just finished my CarPC install in mine a few weeks prior. One suggestion though is paint the front frame piece black so it blends in better with the dash.

                        I actually kinda like it silver. Never been a gold fan, but silver... The only thing I don't like is it's not even, as in centered.

                        I plan on just putting a slot loader in the glovebox, or the center console along with a usb hub. Otherwise I'd need to do fabrication work.

                        The links are interesting, love your install, but the LED make-over and such are overkill for what I want. The only things that really remain other than carputer accessory installs for my stang are:
                        1) window tinting
                        2) removing the driver door to clean the inside window housing (spilled friggin' soda in there about a year back, every time I put the window down and back up it's streaked with gunk).
                        3) replacing the louvers with ones that seat inside the window housings rather than using adhesive to the outside.
                        4) and a rear window louver that actually MOUNTS rather than using stupid adhesive holders that go on the window itself. I made the mistake of getting one, it lasted a day before it tore off, scratched part of my back-end, and is now on the the side of the road somewhere in several pieces by this point.

                        Oh, and pulling off the passenger side overside wheel housing to pull out the stock antenna and put in a wifi-one. Perhaps a multipurpose one if such a thing exists.

                        Originally posted by justchat_1
                        As for your usb wifi - im pretty sure proxim wireless has cards with pigtail connectors.
                        I just googled and found 'em, I don't see any with visable outward connectors, there are some out there, but I've only seen maybe one that was USB based with that, and that only did b/g. This is the only thing about the intel motherboard I'm missing at the molment, a PCI-express slot. I've got a card right here for it.. Although MMCx I think the connectors are called I don't look forward to. The little dang snap on ones, maybe it's MCX. Can't remember..
                        2008 Ford Mustang GT/CS CARPC(99%)
                        Software: Ride/Road-Runner, Digital FX skin 5.x, iGuidance 2011, GPSgate on Win7 64bit

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Wayne613 View Post
                          Took me quite some time to get back to this. But I finally got it in the dash. I ultimately had to replace the motherboard with a Zotac 9300 and make an ad-hoc VGA cable as the 90 degree angle adapter was just taking up too much to fit.

                          I am also going to ultimately replace the M4-atx PSU as I think I have an older firmware revision, and it's not working right at all for power-up/shutdown via the pins. Ordered an Opus 360W Inteligent Vehicle DC-DC Power Supply (DCX6.360) to replace it.

                          The picture shows the final unit installed in the dash. And the single modification I did, which was to use a SPSW momentary switch in parallel with the PSU pins to control the power button switch connectors on the motherboard. Pained me to do it, but necessary, and a relatively cheap plastic piece to replace down the road if needed.

                          how good the opus is?

                          i orderred an 360 w opus too..

                          did opus send you anyconfirmation email when you purchased yours?...they just dont reply my mails and i paid yesterday by paypal.
                          Carputer to sell : http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/vbcl...?do=ad&id=2684

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by summer69guy View Post
                            how good the opus is?

                            i orderred an 360 w opus too..

                            did opus send you anyconfirmation email when you purchased yours?...they just dont reply my mails and i paid yesterday by paypal.
                            I don't remember to be honest. I *think* they did, but I paid by CC I think. And it wasn't until the day after.

                            Works great. I have no problems with it at all, save the size of course. I had blk02si do some work for me on this for mounting everything inside that double-din unit. Shelving and the like. I had to redo the standoffs to raise the unit higher to clear the 2 steel bars in the dash. But the unit works great. Instructions were easy to me, set it to 10min auto-shutoff, hasn't failed me yet. I had to make a 5v molex connector for the subwoofer remote, just so I can disconnect everything when I need to, as the remote line to it requires 5v rather then 12. I still got some engine noise from it (subwoofer RCA connection), but I slapped a ground loop isolator on it and it's just barely there when it comes on now. Goes away completely once windows comes up.
                            2008 Ford Mustang GT/CS CARPC(99%)
                            Software: Ride/Road-Runner, Digital FX skin 5.x, iGuidance 2011, GPSgate on Win7 64bit

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                            • #15
                              Here are the final shots of it installed.

                              Later once I get time I'll redo a write-up of what all I needed to do, buy and the hardware specs of everything I've needed to install/use.
                              Attached Files
                              2008 Ford Mustang GT/CS CARPC(99%)
                              Software: Ride/Road-Runner, Digital FX skin 5.x, iGuidance 2011, GPSgate on Win7 64bit

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