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    Ok, not sure how many of these are done, but I didn't see any. I'm building a carputer system that totally works off a laptop docking station. I'll be taking pictures and linking up to all the stuff if anyone wants to see it done.

    The basic theory is - all cables will hook up to the docking station (xm radio, navigation, power, etc) - Thus allowing the laptop to easily be docked and undocked from the car, with no cables. The carputer will still be seemless and professional like any other well done setup.

    The carputer will have gps navigation, xm radio, and music, running through Road Runner.

    To resume standby, the power button on the docking station will be jumped with a pulse relay through the ignition, and to go into standby, will use a simple program to start standby when power is cutoff.

    Power will come from a simple DC adapter straight from the battery, through a relay with the ignition, to the docking station.

    So to start, I purchased a Dell Latitude C600 -
    http://cgi.ebay.com/FAST-DELL-C600-P...QQcmdZViewItem
    Mine has a 30 gig hard drive.

    This will go into a C Port II docking station -
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

    The setup will be under the seat.

    Docking station will get power from a Dell compatible DC adapter, which will be cut and modified to run from the battery through an ignition relay -
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

    Xm Radio will be from an XMD-1000 setup with Jerry's serial cable hack.

    Still unsure about which GPS i'll use.

    The screen will be a panasonic NON-motorized (less chance of breaking) in dash 7" touch screen -
    http://www.digitalww.com/DWW-700H.htm

    Now, I will be running a seperate head unit for TV, DVD, CD, and AM-FM for a couple reasons, for one, no seperate cards to deal with, and no pc performance issues with tv tuners, dvd, etc... Also, I won't have to reach under the seat to insert a dvd or CD if i need it. Plus, you remove the need for a second amplifier, and retain better sound quality.

    Another reason for a secondary head unit, the whole purpose of this setup is to be "in n' out" with my laptop, I would like a stereo in the car when the carputer isn't.....

    I'll be using a Boss DVD-4400T which I can pick up for $110 new -
    http://www.bossaudio.com/home/catalo...product_id=124

    And obviously a system (amp, speakers, subs) but thats not what I'll go into.

    This is going into my 2000 Elantra - I have a double din setup in my consol - so it will all fit nicely.

    I currently have the laptop (using it now actually) and all items except the screen are on order.... I'll be taking pictures and keeping up to date as this progresses probably over the next month or so.

    Many thanks to JCDillan, Jerry, tons of help man.

    Hope this will help anyone else looking to have an easily removable laptop carputer.

  • #2
    I used to have an in and out setup with my laptop, but it got annoying, so I ripped apart an old computer and put it in my trunk, lol. I used a cooling pad instead of a docking station, I dun think they make a docking station for my laptop.... my laptop took a ****load of abuse from being in there... eventually the mobo died from widtstanding all the vibration and abuse, luckily I got it replaced under waranty. imo its better to do a proper setup after that experiance.

    then again I didn't have any alternative stereo... just the laptop.... maybe a dual type system isn't a bad idea, but my car doesn't have room for it.
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    • #3
      I use a C610 with the dock and a Codi dc adaptor. Works great! The dock I have lets you use 2 pci cards and a bay drive. Mine is far from complete but great. Good luck!
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      • #4
        Good to see another laptop/docking station install. Let me know if you have any questions. I'd suggest using a shutdown controller - way easier.
        My install log
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        • #5
          i had a c600 setup. For some reason it kept restarting every 20-30 min and I would have some serious USB issues. So i moved on to a shuttle/AMD setup.

          hopefully you guys will have better luck. Post how it goes!

          I think I have pictures of how to solder wires to the power switch on the laptop - let me know if you guys want it.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by gospeed.racer
            I use a C610 with the dock and a Codi dc adaptor. Works great! The dock I have lets you use 2 pci cards and a bay drive. Mine is far from complete but great. Good luck!
            Good, glad to see others have a similar setup--

            Yeah, you probably have C Dock II - thats the one I'm installing.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DaPCWiz
              I used to have an in and out setup with my laptop, but it got annoying, so I ripped apart an old computer and put it in my trunk, lol. I used a cooling pad instead of a docking station, I dun think they make a docking station for my laptop.... my laptop took a ****load of abuse from being in there... eventually the mobo died from widtstanding all the vibration and abuse, luckily I got it replaced under waranty. imo its better to do a proper setup after that experiance.

              then again I didn't have any alternative stereo... just the laptop.... maybe a dual type system isn't a bad idea, but my car doesn't have room for it.
              Thats why I'm doing a dual system, and I don't think using a laptop is not "proper" at all actually.... There are many advantages to it actually, for one, the 1ghz is faster than the VIA, also, you have instant access to a laptop computer with full keyboard, bigger than 7" monitor, etc... I can easily take it into a restraunt during lunch, then pop it back into the car when I'm done, I can easily take the laptop out to use at home and add songs, work on the computer, etc....

              I don't know, the list goes on and on why I would prefer a laptop....

              On this model, the HDD is easily removable, and I was thinking about using a 2nd drive for all my car stuff, and a main drive for normal crap... that way, when all the settings are done (hdd and windows wouldn't be overloaded with my personal stuff), and everything is working smoothly, I don't have to worry ab out ******* it up drivers, etc.

              Anyways.....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DaPCWiz
                I used to have an in and out setup with my laptop, but it got annoying, so I ripped apart an old computer and put it in my trunk, lol. I used a cooling pad instead of a docking station, I dun think they make a docking station for my laptop.... my laptop took a ****load of abuse from being in there... eventually the mobo died from widtstanding all the vibration and abuse, luckily I got it replaced under waranty. imo its better to do a proper setup after that experiance.

                then again I didn't have any alternative stereo... just the laptop.... maybe a dual type system isn't a bad idea, but my car doesn't have room for it.
                Thats why I'm doing a dual system, and I don't think using a laptop is not "proper" at all actually.... There are many advantages to it actually, for one, the 1ghz is faster than the VIA, also, you have instant access to a laptop computer with full keyboard, bigger than 7" monitor, etc... I can easily take it into a restraunt during lunch, then pop it back into the car when I'm done, I can easily take the laptop out to use at home and add songs, work on the computer, etc....

                I don't know, the list goes on and on why I would prefer a laptop....

                On this model, the HDD is easily removable, and I was thinking about using a 2nd drive for all my car stuff, and a main drive for normal crap... that way, when all the settings are done (hdd and windows wouldn't be overloaded with my personal stuff), and everything is working smoothly, I don't have to worry ab out ******* it up drivers, etc.

                Anyways.....

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                • #9
                  a good thing to do (what I did) - have two user names, carputer and then your normal. Carputer will be set to a lower res, to load your front end, etc etc, while your normal would be for normal usage.
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                  • #10
                    having the ability to easily remove it if necissary is really convienient.... but anything more than once in a while will get annoying.... to have to swap out a hard drive to take it into a resturant will be a great idea, but a hassle at the same time..... if you have an often need for a laptop you would probably be best served with having another for daily use though I would think.....

                    I always have my laptop with me in a bag.... but the carputer laptop is permanently installed.... they ad hoc if I need transfer, .... now adays it's easy enough to transfer data that you really don't need to bring the pc in often at all... a usb drive would do it all, if you can't just transfer wirelessly that is

                    of course being able to just bring it in & play with it is cool, but the novelty wears off & the different hardware configs could make this a pain....... it winds up being in the car almost always anyway


                    I'm not knocking your setup at all, just sharing what I've learned from my last docked install...... your experience may be different..... cool project, I like it
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by turbocad6
                      having the ability to easily remove it if necissary is really convienient.... but anything more than once in a while will get annoying.... to have to swap out a hard drive to take it into a resturant will be a great idea, but a hassle at the same time..... if you have an often need for a laptop you would probably be best served with having another for daily use though I would think.....

                      I always have my laptop with me in a bag.... but the carputer laptop is permanently installed.... they ad hoc if I need transfer, .... now adays it's easy enough to transfer data that you really don't need to bring the pc in often at all... a usb drive would do it all, if you can't just transfer wirelessly that is

                      of course being able to just bring it in & play with it is cool, but the novelty wears off & the different hardware configs could make this a pain....... it winds up being in the car almost always anyway


                      I'm not knocking your setup at all, just sharing what I've learned from my last docked install...... your experience may be different..... cool project, I like it

                      I agree with that 100%
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                      • #12
                        I was using a dell latitude laptop as well c600. Reason I stopped using it is it would not hibernate properly with my usb gps plugged in. Perhaps you have a different one but I bought the rikaline and had nothing but problems trying to get it to work with the laptop, so I am just using a regular computer now and so far no problems. Goodluck and lemme know how it goes.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by turbocad6
                          having the ability to easily remove it if necissary is really convienient.... but anything more than once in a while will get annoying.... to have to swap out a hard drive to take it into a resturant will be a great idea, but a hassle at the same time..... if you have an often need for a laptop you would probably be best served with having another for daily use though I would think.....

                          I always have my laptop with me in a bag.... but the carputer laptop is permanently installed.... they ad hoc if I need transfer, .... now adays it's easy enough to transfer data that you really don't need to bring the pc in often at all... a usb drive would do it all, if you can't just transfer wirelessly that is

                          of course being able to just bring it in & play with it is cool, but the novelty wears off & the different hardware configs could make this a pain....... it winds up being in the car almost always anyway


                          I'm not knocking your setup at all, just sharing what I've learned from my last docked install...... your experience may be different..... cool project, I like it
                          I rarely have a need for a laptop.... big reason why I like this setup... on occasion when I want it, it's there. I also have an FM modulator and car adapter for it to use in other cars if I want...

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                          • #14
                            Ok, so now the latest news...

                            Got the screen installed, not fully with the brackets (have to wait on them in the mail) - the Elantra is HELL putting aftermarket radios and what not in.

                            Everything is WORKING so far...

                            Right now I'm using Road Runner... love it.

                            I'm using a Holux 210 USB GPS and it's working great, even after hibernate.

                            I am using "Hibernate Trigger" to refire my touchscreen software upon return from hibernation, and using "Shutdown Controller" to suspend the computer upon battery power.

                            Works like a charm, got rid of the logon screens, etc...

                            I just need to hard wire the power button to a nice spot on my dash.

                            So next... I'm waiting on the system (head unit - going with a dvd/tv tuner head unit) - right now I'm running on an FM modulator with the stock head unit.... Also waiting for my XM radio box, then I'll get that installed, as well as the D-Link FM tuner...

                            So only 1 more problem to tackle right now - audio out isn't working on the docking station, I have to plug directly into the laptop - which isn't cool. since right now EVERYTHING is self sustained on the docking station except the audio, so I want to get that fixed somehow, wondering if it's not compatible with the C600 or what.....

                            Besides that, it's coming along great... Keep ya updated, pictures coming soon.

                            p.s. - if anyone else would like to do a similar project with a C600 (very cheap on eBay) please let me know and I'll give more details on settings and other things to make it work without all the hassle im' going through..

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by VitalRyan
                              Ok, so now the latest news...

                              Got the screen installed, not fully with the brackets (have to wait on them in the mail) - the Elantra is HELL putting aftermarket radios and what not in.

                              Everything is WORKING so far...

                              Right now I'm using Road Runner... love it.

                              I'm using a Holux 210 USB GPS and it's working great, even after hibernate.

                              I am using "Hibernate Trigger" to refire my touchscreen software upon return from hibernation, and using "Shutdown Controller" to suspend the computer upon battery power.

                              Works like a charm, got rid of the logon screens, etc...

                              I just need to hard wire the power button to a nice spot on my dash.

                              So next... I'm waiting on the system (head unit - going with a dvd/tv tuner head unit) - right now I'm running on an FM modulator with the stock head unit.... Also waiting for my XM radio box, then I'll get that installed, as well as the D-Link FM tuner...

                              So only 1 more problem to tackle right now - audio out isn't working on the docking station, I have to plug directly into the laptop - which isn't cool. since right now EVERYTHING is self sustained on the docking station except the audio, so I want to get that fixed somehow, wondering if it's not compatible with the C600 or what.....

                              Besides that, it's coming along great... Keep ya updated, pictures coming soon.

                              p.s. - if anyone else would like to do a similar project with a C600 (very cheap on eBay) please let me know and I'll give more details on settings and other things to make it work without all the hassle im' going through..

                              you could use a usb sound card.
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