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  • My Festiva Car PC (3500+ watts of audio)

    Instead of reposting all the photos here, I posted them on my site.
    Take a look.

    Warning: 30 pics not 56k friendly

    http://www.fordfestiva.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7116
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    Wow, while it's a little rough looking (I know you said it's needs some finishing work) the work that must have went into the install is crazy. Congrats bro!
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    • #3
      3500 watts?
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      • #4
        I sure would like to see some pics of the fab process...
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        • #5
          yeah it's still rough.. But the pro interior guys will make it pretty..

          yeah, 3500+ watts.. Under the front subs there are 2 linked RF BD1501s running @ 2ohms.. a RF 400.4 runs the front doors, and 3 alpines run the rest..

          The system is run on a separate circuit from the car.. I fabbed in a 160a one wire alternator as a second alternator.
          Dj

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          • #6
            I like the cup holder....OOPS that was a CD -ROM. Sorry. But I have to say that the install looks good. I hope to see the smooth finish instead of the rough.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by xpnsyd
              yeah it's still rough.. But the pro interior guys will make it pretty..

              yeah, 3500+ watts.. Under the front subs there are 2 linked RF BD1501s running @ 2ohms.. a RF 400.4 runs the front doors, and 3 alpines run the rest..

              The system is run on a separate circuit from the car.. I fabbed in a 160a one wire alternator as a second alternator.
              we put some BD amps in a car a while ago. old rockford **** FTW
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              • #8
                Hell yah!!! That's freakin sweet!!! I like the hard drive trays. Was it tough to install a second alternator? Does it charge a 2nd battery?
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                • #9
                  The 2nd alt charges 2 industrial optima yellow top dry cells behind the seats..

                  I used the a/c engine mount bracket and idler pulley and fabbed up a bracket where the compressor would normally go..

                  here is a link to some of the ideas, build and equipment before I installed it all...

                  http://www.fordfestiva.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5757
                  Dj

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                  • #10
                    i'd like to know why your watching xmen 3

                    its not out on dvd yet

                    illegal~~ :P

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by xpnsyd View Post
                      The system is run on a separate circuit from the car.. I fabbed in a 160a one wire alternator as a second alternator.
                      First off, thats a hefty amount of equipment for a festiva, congrats!

                      but....

                      I have a small pet peeve with "one wire" alternators, and considering you've put quite a bit of money into your install you may want to reconsider the one wire thing and go back to (or switch to) a 3 wire alternator.. most stock 3 wire alternators actually put out MORE than those higher amperage single wire ones...

                      http://www.madelectrical.com/electrical-tech.shtml

                      Instead of linking directly to the "one wire vs 3 wire" article, I linked to a page with several articles of good information... Checkout the article, I think you'll be suprised.. I know I was until I read it, then did my own testing, and was shown the light..
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by fooshizn1x View Post
                        First off, thats a hefty amount of equipment for a festiva, congrats!

                        but....

                        I have a small pet peeve with "one wire" alternators, and considering you've put quite a bit of money into your install you may want to reconsider the one wire thing and go back to (or switch to) a 3 wire alternator.. most stock 3 wire alternators actually put out MORE than those higher amperage single wire ones...
                        Not a Festiva alt.. the wiring is way too small to pump high amperage through..

                        I have seen those that have tried to upgrade the Festiva alt with stock 90 amp alts make fires and burn up the dash. Upgrading the Festiva alt is just too dangerous.

                        BTW, I'm not a youngin, (over 40) and while some of that may be true in that article, it mostly looks like an explanation on why to buy their product. And to say the reason people buy 1 wire alts is because they must not be smart enough to figure out how to wire a 3 wire alt. BAH!!

                        1. I don't need a dummy light, My caps have meters in them and if it stops charging, I will know and with the industrial dry cells that are meant to be discharged, it hurts nothing. If it starts over charging, I can simply turn the car off and disconnect the wire from the batteries without even exiting the car.

                        2. I don't need stringent remote sensing. This is a 2nd alt on a separate circuit. So as long as it senses when the batteries drop below a certain voltage and starts charging, and turns off when the batteries are charged, that's all I want.

                        3. The alt charging wire is a 1/0 and being in a Festiva it is shorter than almost any other car.

                        4. The alt is on it own pulley and if it tosses a belt the dry cells will drain and at most they would have to be recharged to 9v before the 1 wire would start charging again.

                        I have used both 1 wire and 3 wire alts over the years and yes the 3 wire is better for for general single alt car apps. But my charging system was designed to charge the batteries not, run the equipment.

                        I can run my whole system without the engine on for about 4 hours without dropping voltage enough to require a charge. So, unless I am on a long trip, or hitting it hard (which I then can't be in the car or I'd go deaf) charging is not a problem. I also have a 50amp 120v battery charger in the back of the car if I need more engine off time..

                        Needless to say the 160a alt and 2 industrial dry cells are overkill for the amount of things that 1 or 2 people can do at one time. All the while my tiny 50a Festiva alt runs the car and it's normal electrics just as it did before the system went in.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by FC3S View Post
                          i'd like to know why your watching xmen 3

                          its not out on dvd yet

                          illegal~~ :P

                          That's a trailer...
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by xpnsyd View Post
                            Not a Festiva alt.. the wiring is way too small to pump high amperage through..

                            I have seen those that have tried to upgrade the Festiva alt with stock 90 amp alts make fires and burn up the dash. Upgrading the Festiva alt is just too dangerous.

                            BTW, I'm not a youngin, (over 40) and while some of that may be true in that article, it mostly looks like an explanation on why to buy their product. And to say the reason people buy 1 wire alts is because they must not be smart enough to figure out how to wire a 3 wire alt. BAH!!

                            1. I don't need a dummy light, My caps have meters in them and if it stops charging, I will know and with the industrial dry cells that are meant to be discharged, it hurts nothing. If it starts over charging, I can simply turn the car off and disconnect the wire from the batteries without even exiting the car.

                            2. I don't need stringent remote sensing. This is a 2nd alt on a separate circuit. So as long as it senses when the batteries drop below a certain voltage and starts charging, and turns off when the batteries are charged, that's all I want.

                            3. The alt charging wire is a 1/0 and being in a Festiva it is shorter than almost any other car.

                            4. The alt is on it own pulley and if it tosses a belt the dry cells will drain and at most they would have to be recharged to 9v before the 1 wire would start charging again.

                            I have used both 1 wire and 3 wire alts over the years and yes the 3 wire is better for for general single alt car apps. But my charging system was designed to charge the batteries not, run the equipment.

                            I can run my whole system without the engine on for about 4 hours without dropping voltage enough to require a charge. So, unless I am on a long trip, or hitting it hard (which I then can't be in the car or I'd go deaf) charging is not a problem. I also have a 50amp 120v battery charger in the back of the car if I need more engine off time..

                            Needless to say the 160a alt and 2 industrial dry cells are overkill for the amount of things that 1 or 2 people can do at one time. All the while my tiny 50a Festiva alt runs the car and it's normal electrics just as it did before the system went in.
                            Well thats pretty much the standard answer that most people give when they still think the 1 wire is better. that place isnt trying to sell any special product besides a wiring harness for those who are upgrading, adding to a vehicle without the proper wires already, or for those who are unfamiliar with how to install it. The charging capacity, and the way it charges are far superior with a 3 wire.. but if the 1 wire is working for you suffeciently, then I guess thats all that matters. Good luck with your project, I too would like to see it all finished up!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by fooshizn1x View Post
                              Well thats pretty much the standard answer that most people give when they still think the 1 wire is better. that place isnt trying to sell any special product besides a wiring harness for those who are upgrading, adding to a vehicle without the proper wires already, or for those who are unfamiliar with how to install it. The charging capacity, and the way it charges are far superior with a 3 wire.. but if the 1 wire is working for you suffeciently, then I guess thats all that matters. Good luck with your project, I too would like to see it all finished up!

                              I'm an electrician and after reading that website you linked to, I saw no evidence of a 3 wire alternator being better than a 1 wire. I attempted to find somewhere on my own that shows 3 wire alternators being better than 1 wire, but couldn't find anything.

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