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    Well I finally finished my first car pc. Well actually it’s been done for a while I just hadn’t taken pix of the finished project yet. It’s in a 98 taurus, my DD. I tried a few things that I didn’t end up using, such as the abs sludge technique. This was my second fabrication project (the first being custom door kick panels which you’ll see in here at some point.) So here is what I did and a little bit on how I did it.

    Obviously I did a ton of research on here, since I didn’t know car pc’s existed till early summer. Thanks to everyone on mp3car.com forums for the help.

    After I pretty much decided on what I wanted for hardware I was ready to order. But I didn’t know if I was ready to take the plunge yet so I just ordered a spare liliput 619 housing off the internet so I could get a feel for what I was getting myself into. I had the stock radio which I wasn’t using, since I had since replaced it with a cd player. Since the stock radio is a big oval thing I needed a special dash kit for the new cd player, which is why the stock radio was laying around.

    I never took a pic of what it started out like, but here’s one that pretty much shows it. I put the entire car pc inside the center console (the part between the seats behind the shifter.) the only thing you can see when opening the center storage area are some USB ports for adding music and my mini keyboard. ill add some pix of that soon.



    Anyone that’s seen a Ford radio mount knows that it’d be pretty hard to fabricate out of nothing, and since I wasn’t using the stock radio, I decided to do a little demolition to grab out the back plate which had the dash mounts attached to it.







    Then I sized up the lilliput front bezel to see how it fit…looked good



    And cut out the middle of the radio backing, so all that was left was the outer ring and dash mounts.

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    I removed the entire center piece of my dash, sanded off the finish of the lillipt, lined it up and got this



    then, using an old soldering iron that I don’t use for soldering, I plastic welded the lilliput housing to the oval radio mount where I wanted it. This is a great technique I learned about on these forums, try it out if you get a chance. I think it will work when bonding any thermoplastics (plastics than can be melted and will return to the same state after cooling.) in my case I know the radio mount is ABS, and the plastic I used for the connections (legos) are also ABS. I’m not sure but I believe the lilliput housing is as well. The key is to get both connections hot enough to fuse together, rather than melting one connection onto another, if that makes sense.





    Once I finished plastic welding the frame together, I gave it a few solid flexes to check out the durability. All went well, as the connections actually cool and form a single piece, rather than two pieces joined together. Now it was time to fill in the front surrounding the housing. To do this, I put masking tape across the entire front of the lilliput frame to shape the front, as I will be applying bondo hair from the back side of the frame. Everything was cleaned using denatured alcohol many times throughout this project. I might forget to mention it, but anytime I wanted something to stick to something else, it was cleaned thoroughly with denatured alcohol. I mixed the bondo hair and stuffed it in from behind, trying my best to mash it toward the masking taps to form a smooth front. Aafter it dried, I remved the masking tape. So far so good.




    I sanded and roughened up the front and cleaned so body filler would stick.



    taped off the lilliput housing piece so I didn’t get bondo in the accent lines or button holes
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    • #3


      bondo applied (I know it’s a lot but I used a power sander for most of it so sanding wasn’t a huge issue)



      sanded



      touch up bondo



      and sanded smooth



      cleaned and waiting for texture.



      I used truck bed spray for texture. I found that short bursts from quite a distance gave me just what I was looking for.






      and one more with my 1/8 scale nitro buggy

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      • #4
        eventually, I painted the lilliput housing with a few final flat black coats to match the interior of my car.

        While I was fabrication the lilliput mount, I decided that things were going well enough to justify buying the rest of the car pc. I purchased:

        -via epia m10k motherboard/processor
        -80 gb 3.5” Wesern Digital HDD
        -pioneer slim slot load dvd writer
        -30” IDE cable
        -iguidance v3
        -BU-353 GPS receiver
        -lilliput 619 7” widescreen VGA monitor
        -pioneer cd-rb10 rca adapter
        -male headphone jack to rca adapter (6 ft.)
        -m2 ATX DC-DC power supply
        -tiny playstation usb keyboard
        -mini optical mouse
        -VGA extension cord (didn’t need)
        -USB extension (didn’t need)
        -3 CNC aluminum knobs w. set screws
        -power wire, rocker switch, fuses, in line fuse holders, ect.
        -few quarts of bondo hair, some body filler, plastic wrap, mixing sticks, denatured alcohol, the list goes on….

        I set up the comp, and it spent about a month on the floor getting set up and waiting for dash fabrication to finish. I was sure to get it set up perfectly before I put it in the car because it’s so much easier to work on in the house.



        I originally planned on fabricating the pioneer cd player and air controls into the lower piece in front of the shifter, into the frame of what used to be the ash tray/cigarette lighter adapter. The plan was to use fleece/fiberglass mat/resin.



        Hot glued sticks for structure while the fleece was stretched




        then I read up on the ABS sludge method and decided to try that instead



        legos and bits of the stock radio shredded (I don’t have a way to get them any finer so I just crushed them)



        front of frame taped off



        sludge poured



        and after 4 days, it’s dry



        I hated this outcome, and decided ABS sludge technique was not for me. In fact, I decided to eliminate the ash tray frame altogether, and fabricate directly into the hole where it had been.



        I cut a thin wooden frame to fit the cd player and the dvd writer. You can also see I drilled some holes on top or the piece, to add a sun visor that’ll flow with the rest of the cars interior lines.





        corrugated covered in blue masking tape was used as a starting “ledge” to shape the visor
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          after the last pic I learned one of the best techniques of the project….you can use plastic wrap to “mold” bondo hair while it’s pliable…then once it starts to harden, you can peel it off smooth. This made life much easier. I kept building up layers of bondo hair, sanding and cleaning before each new layer.



          I was getting sick of working on the sun visor so I decided to permanently fix the cd player/dvd writer into place. I drilled some holes to help the bondo hair stick to the console and roughened it up a bit. After a good cleaning with denatured alcohol, I covered the front with masking tape, just like I did with with the lilliput housing.



          then, using my new friend plastic wrap, I crammed bondo hair in from the back and was left with a decently smooth surface.



          Then I added some more ondo hair to the front to fill in any holes I missed from the back. Again I used plastic wrap to mash it into the basic shape I wanted it to be.



          after a little sanding, I saw that I needed to add some more material to the front to make it even.





          It was starting to become apparent that I couldn’t finish the black plastic piece near the shifter the way I had originally intended, so I had to cut it down, and match the bondo glass edge to flow with the cut. This took a few tries.

          Test fit



          I didn’t really take a lot of pictures at this point because I was very anxious to get things done, so we’ll fast forward to the completed center consol, after texture and paint. Holes for switches and air control knobs have been drilled. Also, the lilliput housing has been painted the same flat black.



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          • #6
            I made a mount for the dvd writer



            (tape was for fit only)



            wiring the power supply. I chose to run a switch for the 12v accessory wire for when I use the car pc with the car off (pumping gas doesn’t require a restart) and in case I don’t want the car pc on (short trips to the store, ect.) I also powered the lilliput from the M2, so at this point I got rid of the “egg” on the stock DC power wire and added an inline fuse. I also made an extension for the dvd writer power wire and rigged up a 3mm led for my rear defroster indicator to replace the nasty orange stock bulb.




            testing the car pc in the console in my room



            almost ready to go in the car




            it was an absolute pain to get the whole thing in place, but eventually everything went, and nothing broke. Here’s some in car pix.







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            • #7
              night pix running Frodoplayer….Excellent job on this front end FB! It’s highly appreciated!








              and here’s a few pix of my first fiberglass project, completes the week before the car pc started.






              I like pioneer, in case you haven’t noticed by now. Got ‘em in the back too. Speaks, cd player, dvd writer….

              Well that’s just about it. Theres a few things I’d like to get out there. First off, if you live where it gets ridiculously hot and you plan to park your car in the sun, don’t use bondo hair to fabricate a complete sun visor. It will get soft in intense heat/sunlight. I’m in a cooler climate so it’s not an issue for me. I noticed it one day and it wasn’t bad, just a suggestion if you live in extreme temps.

              I didn’t run an amp, my sound comes out my cd player via an rca input.

              Can’t think of anything else right now…I’ll add more later I’m sure. Thanks for lookin and leave some feedback.
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              • #8
                Wow..... Very very very very nice. The texture looks great!
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                Finally Installed!!
                Everything is in the car and working.
                I painted the cilpboard mount and it looks good.
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                • #9
                  NICE!!!

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                  • #10
                    Very Nice Job!!!!

                    I'm VERY Impressed!

                    Did you give up the AC controls completely? or CarPC controlled?

                    Peace,

                    Rafster
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                    • #11
                      nope, the ac is controlled by the 3 silver knobs below the cd player...theres no diagrams but i know what all the settings are and it looks cleaner witout them. thanks for the replies everyone!
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                      • #12
                        Worst
                        Fabricator
                        EVAR!

                        That visor was genious dude. +2 points for legos.

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                        • #13
                          i dunno about the worst i've seen some terrible stuff on here. i think it's pretty damn good for a rookie
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                          • #14
                            fantastic glassing/molding job. I know my car has the potential to be customized fully but I lack the patience and skills you took to make yours flawless. Love the look of the texture.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mjs3350 View Post
                              i dunno about the worst i've seen some terrible stuff on here. i think it's pretty damn good for a rookie
                              i think he was being sarcastic since he followed it up with a compliment.
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