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  • 1998 Cadillac Seville STS - almost stock

    I just ordered the parts to build my first CarPC. Here is my parts list:
    • 7" touchscreen monitor (Received)
    • VoomPC-2 kit (Intel D945GCLF2D mini-ITX motherboard, 2GB DDR2 memory, M2-ATX-HV, 140w output, 6v to 32v wide input Intelligent Automotive DC-DC Car PC Power Supply) (Received)
    • Toshiba 500GB Sata-II laptop hard drive (Received)
    • Vantec 16ft USB repeater extension (x2 to run from trunk to dash) (Received)
    • CablesToGo 18459 4-Port USB2 hub with 18" blue LED indicator & plug cover (replace ash tray) (Received)
    • Logitech diNovo Black Bluetooth Wireless Mini Keyboard (Received)
    • iSimple TranzIt FM passthrough modulator (Received)
    • AMC 15ft VGA extension cable (Received)
    • RCA split tip solid copper audio cable 25ft (Received)
    • AllTel Huawei EC168 aircard (already owned)
    • --More parts to come later as needed (no other parts needed right now)

    This is my very first install. The car has the BOSE Premium audio system with 6 disc changer in the armrest. Using the iSimple TranzIt, I'll be able to retain the factory HU mount and full radio and CD (including 6 disc changer) functions. Looking forward to any tips, tricks, and recommendations. I will also make sure to post photos of my build as it progresses. OS will be Windows MCE 2005 stripped to bare basics leaving media center functions. I will also be testing LinuxMCE as a possible alternative. After having tested all the currently supported FE's, I have considered RideRunner. Only downside I see is that when switching from DVD or MP3 to GPS, it splits the screen. Not available or practical with only a single monitor.

    Parts marked Received arrived by April 2. Parts marked Ordered will be received by April 8.
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    The Car:
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      The VoomPC-2 and Monitor:
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        Don't mind the pillow the parts are sitting on. I grabbed the first item I could find to prop everything up to take the photos.

        Inside the PC, I had to wrap ALL the wires to allow for easier management and better airflow. On the back of the PC, you can see some wires wrapped with black tape. Those are extra wires that don't connect inside the PC and are a waste. You'll also notice the 3 main wires: Red (battery positive), White (ignition), and Black (ground). Keeping with the same color scheme, I picked up 30 feet of each in solid 14-gauge. Unfortunately I wasn't thinking when I purchased the additional wires. Since the battery is under the rear seat and the PC is going in the trunk, I will only need a little over half of the white and less than 10 feet of the red and black. Always good to have extra though should I decide to move the PC to a different spot in the car.

        In the picture of the cables, the top one has the power, 2 RCA video, and a single RCA audio connection for the monitor. I have the option of using a cigarette adapter to power it, or I can use the 18-gauge wires. My choice is the wires as I can easily connect it to the wires for the cigarette lighter next to the ash tray when I remove it for the USB hub. This will make wiring simple and able to go back stock without any additional connections leftover later.

        More pictures to come once the install begins.
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        • #5
          Well, went out to start the wiring install today and ran into a small problem. The switch for the fuel door is sticking allowing the battery to drain. So it'll be going back to the shop for a couple days to be fixed. And to make sure there's no other problems, also replacing the solenoid and wiring for the fuel door release.
          Here's a breakdown of total cost so far:

          Car: $2500
          Repairs: $700
          PC: $867.37

          Grand Total: $4067.37

          Not a bad deal. Updates coming as the ever delaying install progresses.
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          • #6
            Looking nice. I was actually going to buy one of those when i was younger, but everyone told me they arent very friendly with gas so I went with a Dodge Shadow, which I loved. That started my love for Dodge cars. I then bought a Ford, but once I had the chance I went back to Dodge.

            I see you bought the VM70, I cant wait to see what you do with this screen. Its so easy to work with because of the headrest cover.
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            • #7
              ZX1Cruiser, I got my monitor from mini-box. I didn't know until now what monitor it was. I'm using the desktop mount with the doublestick tape that's on it to mount it on top of the dash. The car actually gets great gas mileage for being a 32 valve V8. Before all the work was done to it, my mom was able to get between 24 and 32 mpg. Haven't check the mileage lately. It costs me less to fill it than my dad's 1994 Ranger XLT. That only gets about 16 on a good day.

              Well, I decided to take more photos of the car today.
              Photos in order:
              1. whole trunk with my new compressor
              2. PC mount with cover closed
              3. PC mount with cover open
              4. clear view of the factory HU
              5. the ashtray to become the USB hub
              6. under the center console upfront
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              • #8
                Oh you bought yours from Mini-box.... I buy mine from short-circuit.com. They are the cheapest. Did Mini-box at least give you the headrest cover? I think it will work out better for you. Here is a link of the same exact car with the screen installed. The person just didnt finish the bezel yet. From the picture its just way easier with the headrest cover.


                http://www.short-circuit.com/product/VM70.html

                Love the area for you car pc.... out of sight, out of mind.
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                • #9
                  Mine came with the headrest mount too. How much was yours? Mine was $145 plus shipping. Took about 5 days to arrive. How long ago did you start your build and install? Have you decided what OS and FE you'll be using?
                  Out of sight, out of mind exactly. I also figured rather than tapping multiple points for power, I'll run a terminal strip from the batter into the trunk and connect the monitor and pc to that for power. I will still be running the ignition wire from the pc to the front though as required for the power board to work properly.
                  This will be a challenging project as I'll be adding a Code 3 siren and emergency lights later as I'm a volunteer firefighter.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by secret52 View Post
                    Mine came with the headrest mount too. How much was yours? Mine was $145 plus shipping. Took about 5 days to arrive. How long ago did you start your build and install? Have you decided what OS and FE you'll be using?
                    Out of sight, out of mind exactly. I also figured rather than tapping multiple points for power, I'll run a terminal strip from the batter into the trunk and connect the monitor and pc to that for power. I will still be running the ignition wire from the pc to the front though as required for the power board to work properly.
                    This will be a challenging project as I'll be adding a Code 3 siren and emergency lights later as I'm a volunteer firefighter.
                    Its $145.00 also, but with free shipping. All the company sells is products from the same screen manufaturer. They are fast and the customer service is excellent.

                    Here is the shocker but I am going on 3 years with my install. Its because mine is beast and I'm trying to integrate 7 PC units into the car. Started as one unit then someone put the idea into my head to also have a PC for each seat.

                    For the Main PC, I am going with Windows 7. It has a feature called Hybrid Sleep which will put the PC to sleep, but if the battery drops below recommended amounts, it puts the PC into hibernation to save battery power. The benefit is that with hybrid sleep the PC will come on instantly, just like a head unit system. If the battery goes to low, then the PC will boot but boot back up where you left off.

                    Front end, I am using Centrafuse 3. Its very easy to use, a decent amount of plugins for it. What is nice is that you have customer support because it is a pay product. Also because I am running so many screens (7 screens, 1 per seat and a 19 inch flipdown), CF is able to work with all of them, because it has separate controls for the rear. Also has dual zone audio, so if people in the back want to watch a movie while I listen to music, they just plug in headphones.

                    I don't think the lighting will be that hard. If you can successfully install a Car PC, then you'll be able to do the lighting with your eyes closed.
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                    • #11
                      No wonder your install is taking so long. Are you trying to do it all at once? I would recommend doing the front and working your way to the rear. It might be easier as you will know where to run cabling and everything to help speed up the back installs. Where are you mounting everything? What are you doing about power? Are you adding any capacitors to help with power drain? I started reading through your worklong, but after seeing that it's 11 pages, I decided to skip and read parts later.

                      For my install, since I only have the single monitor, I'm going to stick with Windows XP MCE 2005. I plan on stripping all the non-essentials out and disabling all services that aren't needed. Also, since I'll be able to surf the net with my aircard, I'm installing anti-virus. I was considering doing dual HDD inside the case, but with the limited room for cabling I decided to add 1TB externals as needed. I have a total of 6 USB ports on the case, and I'll only be using 2 as I'm running extension repeater cables for the touchscreen and 4-port hub. I'll be documenting everything as I actually start the installation this week. Since I located my battery drain myself, I won't be needing to take it back for anymore repairs other than 2 front tires later. Any tips since you've been doing this a while? Also, with the emergency lights and siren, I'm not sure of the connections for them yet as I'm still waiting for them to arrive in the next 1-3 weeks.
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                      • #12
                        Well, after looking about 3 hours ago, I stumbled upon something I was afraid I would have to tear the dash apart for....the antenna connection for the stereo. Surprisingly, it was in plain site. I've marked it in the photo inside the black ring. Thank god I got curious and decided to check wires. Ok, ok...so I stumbled upon it while checking for a 12v constant power wire for the monitor to connect to before deciding to just put a terminal strip in the trunk for power distribution.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by secret52 View Post
                          Well, after looking about 3 hours ago, I stumbled upon something I was afraid I would have to tear the dash apart for....the antenna connection for the stereo. Surprisingly, it was in plain site. I've marked it in the photo inside the black ring. Thank god I got curious and decided to check wires. Ok, ok...so I stumbled upon it while checking for a 12v constant power wire for the monitor to connect to before deciding to just put a terminal strip in the trunk for power distribution.
                          LOL, why is it so far down..... Mine was right behind the radio!

                          Why dont you connect the screen to the 12V for the radio? The proper thing to do would be to run a second wire to the PC and have the PSU power the screen, that way it turns on and off with the PC. You dont have to worry about running a ground wire for the screen to the PC because you can simply ground some place in the dash area, maybe the ground for the radio?
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                          3x Perixx Touchpads
                          3x 7 inch Screens
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                          1x Win 7 PC

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                            I was considering using the PC PSU to power the screen, but there are only 3 wires that actually connect on the PSU (red [battery +], black [ground], white [ignition]). That's why the unconnected wires are taped up on the power connection for the PC. I'm not sure why it's so far down, but it makes it easier for me to connect the iSimple TranzIt for the audio. And with running the terminal strip in the trunk for the power, I will only have one connection point for power. Makes it easier to trace any shorts as I can disconnect the strip and see if the short stops (should I have one again). Plus with only a single power connection, there's a lower possability of "hidden" wiring shorting out. Only things that will be connected to the terminal strip are the pc and the monitor. Plus I will have a couple extra connections should I decide to add a better sound system.

                            Single power tap = simple install without shorting or multi-splicing.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by secret52 View Post
                              I was considering using the PC PSU to power the screen, but there are only 3 wires that actually connect on the PSU (red [battery +], black [ground], white [ignition]). That's why the unconnected wires are taped up on the power connection for the PC. I'm not sure why it's so far down, but it makes it easier for me to connect the iSimple TranzIt for the audio. And with running the terminal strip in the trunk for the power, I will only have one connection point for power. Makes it easier to trace any shorts as I can disconnect the strip and see if the short stops (should I have one again). Plus with only a single power connection, there's a lower possability of "hidden" wiring shorting out. Only things that will be connected to the terminal strip are the pc and the monitor. Plus I will have a couple extra connections should I decide to add a better sound system.

                              Single power tap = simple install without shorting or multi-splicing.
                              My only concern is that say you turn off the car, the screen will shut off right away, while the PC is still trying to power down. If for some reason the PC hangs and doesnt shut off, you wont know it because your screen is off. Thats why the screen should be connected to the 12V rail of the PSU, the wires that normally connect to the hard drive and PC appliances. You just use a Molex splitter to split one and send 12V to the screen. That way when you turn off the car, the PC starts to shut down, you see whats going on, then when the PC does its thing, it will turn the screen off. Same with starting up, if you have the screen on a different 12V source, then it will come on right away and you will see a blue screen until the PC kicks in, that doesnt look very good.
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                              1X Ainol Novo Flame Tab
                              4X MK808b
                              3x Perixx Touchpads
                              3x 7 inch Screens
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